JTK wrote:

> Blake Ross wrote:
>
>> Maybe you "totally expect" tabs.  The general IE-using population 
>> doesn't.
>>
>
> For once Blake's right[1]: tabs are an almost-completely unused 
> feature.  Which is why somebody thought they'd spend all kinds of 
> effort putting them in instead of addressing Mozilla's crippling 
> problems.
>
> [1] Well, twice: that so-long-in-coming context menu is still pretty 
> sweet.
>
>> I assure you that people who don't use Mozilla-based distributions 
>> aren't making such a decision on the basis that DHTML pages scroll 
>> slowly.
>>
>
> Right.  They're making that decision based on one or more of the 
> following:
>
> 1. Complete lack of knowledge that Mozilla even exists.
> 2. Want to see web pages, not blank pages because the webmaster forgot 
> to dot the HTML equivalent of an "i".
> 3. Still waiting for Mozilla to be a step *up* from NC4.7x, not a huge 
> step *down*.
> 4. Don't think that a lousy web browser should require more computing 
> resources than all other programs combined.
>
>> Have no fear, such distributions know the most important user 
>> complaints (they have direct interaction with users regularly)
>
>
> Oh man, that must be a rough gig.  Oh wait, I suppose with ~0.75% 
> market share those phones probably aren't exactly ringing off the 
> hook, are they?
>
>> and prioritize accordingly.  You're apparently speaking based on 
>> personal experience, i.e. what annoys /you/.
>>
>
> Indeed, and who the hell does he think he is anyway!  Oh, right, a 
> user, i.e. the Enemy.
>
None of you really seem to get it (except that Nobody guy).  This is ALL 
about petty little personal complaints like I made.  Certainly I knew I 
was making complaints that were hardly exhaustive and and not important 
to many people.  This is not about all the academic BS you fed back to 
me.  You people should simply get some of those features that people 
enjoy and depend on working properly so they have a bit more warm and 
fuzzy feeling toward using this browser (otherwise known as the new 
Netscape, too) than I currently have left.  It is You who will have to 
listen to some of the complaints I and others make to determine just 
what those silly little features in your browser are.  Tabs are only 
expected in the sense that this innovation, for anyone who wants to use 
it, is being used *somehow* and can be found quite easily for IE by 
using Netcaptor--a lot of people probably know about tabs if they have a 
desire to use them and it will be a big feature for a significant 
portion of browser users and is undoubtedly being addressed by MS 
programmers.  The whole point is to get some one fabulous feature ahead 
of the other browsers for some segment of the browser population or the 
vast majority (whatever), and to do it as quickly as possible so that 
interest in this browser and Netscape can spread like wildfire.
    Just like the Mac survives to a large extent on the fact that it has 
provided artist types with what they think works for them, it is 
important to think about how to do something to make this browser stand 
out to some group, even a kind of small one, but certainly it should be 
an intelligent group of some sort...i.e. that's why I say this browser 
should have some features that might appeal to those who are more 
serious researchers on the web.


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