fantasai wrote:

> Tim McNerney wrote:
> 
>>Ian Hickson wrote:
>>
>>>The only firm date I've ever heard from mozilla.org
>>>for a 1.0 release date is "when it's ready".
>>>
>>I'm glad Apache doesn't use the same dictionary as
>>mozilla.org, cause apparently "ready" is defined as
>>"when nobody cares anymore".
>>
> 
> Nobody will care anymore if we release before it's ready.
> Netscape already proved that with its 6.0 release. How
> many people were turned off when they tried running NS 6?
> Will they come back? Not so fast. This is a high-profile
> open source project, and while marketing tactics may
> excuse Netscape, they won't help us.


Nothing will help you unfortunately. This is a high-profile open source 
project. The two most important things it has accomplished are 
convincing other corporate entities to open source some of their work 
and as an example of how to fail with a large project.


> You say that everyone is impatiently waiting for 1.0.
> But are they waiting for a release to be branded 1.0,
> or for a release to be 1.0 quality? Don't confuse the
> two.


No. The people I'm talking about are people who have contributed to the 
project. Not all, obviously. And my feeling is it is more along the 
lines of "Please let this circus end. I don't care if it is perfect. 
Just let this end." I'm guessing that this phase lasts only a short time 
  before they join the rest of the world in just not caring. AOL bought 
Netscape and they clearly don't care any more. Shouldn't be long before 
they axe all development work on Mozilla. Then you'll be a failed 
project with half the resources and an even smaller chance of ever 
releasing a decent product.


> 
>>It's fine if you want to go on about how you can do
>>whatever you want and release only when everyone is
>>happy and no one can do anything about it. 
>>
> 
> The release won't be when everyone is happy. It'll be
> when all the 1.0 criteria--which we're defining now--
> have been satisfied.


I'm waiting with baited breath.

--Tim



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