Ben and I, in person. Actually the argument's pretty much over, there's not much point in doing the work if the default (which 99% don't change) is to work the same way as today.
I don't know about FireFox GUI, but please, please, if you do it as white list, *don't* add another "manager".
There really should a sigle "rights" manager in Mozilla instead of the current accumulation of various managers.
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