Ian G wrote:

> I must be really boring, I don't find that odd at
> all.  Where would you keep the root cert?  You
> surely don't believe all those stories about
> m of n copies distributed in hardened bunkers...

No, but a few simple precautions can prevent a lot of effort needed to
fix it :)

> happen if the CAs can't make any money;
> either the CAs have to be removed or we
> have to find a way to make them some money,
> or they have to do it for free.  Economics is
> not really negotiable at the physics level.

My concern isn't that they want to make money, but stifle competition in
the process to consolidate things.

> The most important thing that the browser UI
> can do is to promote more SSL.  If twice as
> many people use SSL but it has a slight
> vulerability, that's much better than perfect
> system that is only used by half as many.

I agree with you on your opinions about opportunistic encryption, any
encryption is better then none, but at the same time absolutely no
verification is of no benefit either.

> So, it would be ok for the lock not to be
> shown as long as the browser does not
> scare the user away or waste their time on
> popups, IMHO.  If self-signed certs could be
> used exactly as HTTP, then we could replace
> HTTP with self-signed certs and everyone
> wins.

mmmmmm.... see above...

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Best regards,
 Duane

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