the answer is yes. since i was reprimanded for my non-mplsness post (which i understand and was admittedly not even thinking of...sorry, though i think the two aspects i highlight below were both represented in the initial post, and are germaine...) i will reframe the discussion to make it explicitly germaine to mpls issues... mpls' own US rep, the honorable blah blah blah sabo, voted to represent those of us in mpls with a vote to give the EU a $4-6 billion tax subsidy/year (HR 4986, which will assuredly benefit only major corporations...) framed this way, what do you mpls citizens think about your representation in the US house??? additionally, i would like to pick on mpls' own local corporate rag, the strib, for failing to note this rather immense piece of legislation (as it will assuredly ignore the senate's debate and or adoption of this corporate welfare). in fact, i think the strib has been doing a monumentally cruddy job of reporting issues of the corporate globalizing movement and the resistance it has been facing...look back to the coverage of the WEF (world economic forum) in australia earlier this month (a get together of the 1,000 richest corporations in the world (and the protests against it))...look at the strib's coverage of the IMF & world bank meeting in prague (and the massive protests against them)...look at the completely unreasoned, yet supportive editorials of the generous, concerned and helpful IMF & world bank, the benefits of gm agribusiness, the wto, nafta, the list goes on and on and on and on....if you look back to the wto seattle shindig and check the coverage, you will see they did a much better job (though still stilted, but you can't expect more than they delivered then...) of cevering the wto itself and the protests against the wto...since then the entire strib story climate has either ignored issues of corporate managed global domination, or glossed over it, and usually ignoring the protest element or making them out to be misguided, small numbers, or otherwise inconsequential the strib is a shameless promoter of corporate managed trade and this is something that nobody is willing to talk about. hopefully this is seen as a mpls issue, if we cannot discuss the politics and framing of our local paper of ill-repute and the effect that such propaganda has on the citizens of this great village, then what is the use of talking about any of this junk? jon kelland bryant __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/