In a message dated 11/1/2000 7:37:42 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes, in part, regarding earlier suggestion to sell 
Meadowbrook Golf Course:

<< It's a beautiful course, and my kids and I have taken golf lessons there
 for very affordable prices.  So when people say that the taxpayers don't
 derive benefits, I have to disagree.  Most folks can't afford to shell
 out $40,000 to join a private club like Minikahda, so if they like to golf,
 they golf at municipal owned courses (Hiawatha, Theodore Wirth or
 Meadowbrook in Minneapolis; Fred Richards or Braemar in Edina) or county
 owned courses.  I think these municipal courses are a wonderful thing,
 comparable to lakes, parks and public swimming pools.  
 
 Am I missing something?   >>

First off, I'd suggest that most taxpayers dervie no benefit from public golf 
courses other than some largely unuseable green space value... naturally the 
golfers using the facilities enjoy them and support the concept-- but what 
percent of Mpls. households are 'golfing households'?  I think there is ample 
justification for the parks being supported by the public because they are 
available to and used by more of the public, less so for stand-alone public 
swimming pools when we have all the city lakes (although they have 
experienced deteriorating quality in recent years-- for swimming, fishing, 
canoeing, etc.).  [Swimming pools in public schools make more sense, and they 
can also be opened to the general public during non-school use periods, with 
a reasonable userfee that provides a contribution toward upkeep and 
maintenance-- similar to gymnasiums in public schools that should be open to 
the public as school scheduling permits.]

The above golf course argument sounds strikingly similar to that of a 
father/mother that wants to take the kids to professional 
baseball/football/basketball games and therefore endorses public funding for 
sports stadium(s)- private team ownership/salary issues aside.  The fact 
remains that much of the population in Minneapolis either isn't that 
interested in sports, and/or can't afford to attend the games anyway (also 
there is great competition for discretionary income via numerous 
leisure/recreation options).  Taking a family of five to professional 
sporting events (with a hot dog/drink, etc.) costs anywhere from $75 - $250, 
a cost not affordable for many city residents... it could just as well be 
$40,000... well almost.  Meanwhile those same residents will be experiencing 
dramatic increases in their property taxes or monthly rent payments over the 
next decade-plus, due to City development policies (excessive use of TIF and 
excessively large amounts of subsidy per project) and poor fiscal management 
practices (i.e. Internal Services deficits due to inadequate transfer 
pricing, growing social programs that necessitate annual cuts in basic 
services, etc.).  I think this argument (excessive government involvement in 
things beyond basic services that it can't afford) is also valid for 
municipal-supported golf courses- it's another unecessary public subsidy 
(especially when Meadowbrook isn't even located within the city limits) that 
doesn't provide a public return commensurate to the assets involved.  

And when the combined results of all these government excesses and poor 
management result in financial harm to our lower-moderate income residents 
and elderly on limited fixed incomes, the arguments become more than a 
tax-cutting diatribe!  They question the very logic of all this DFL 
overspending in recent years.  As Barret Lane and Lisa McDonald have stated 
in several previous posts, it's time to prioritize what we want to spend our 
tax dollars on in Minneapolis because we can't afford everything on the menu! 
 CM Lane has even asked list members for suggestions... I wonder what the 
response has been?  

M. Hohmann
13th Ward

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