I'll have you know that four of my 35 Minneapolitan  renters are now driving
SUV's.

I guess suburb bashing never really goes out of style, does it?

Craig Miller
Former Fultonite
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Waltenbaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Mpls] Fun with parking ramps


>Greg,
>
>If the parking downtown is really that frustrating to SUV-driving, suburban
>T-Wolves fans, why not post a flyer on how to take the bus?
>
>Or better yet, how to take the new light rail system.  Oh, wait, that's
only
>in places like Portland...
>
>---------------------------
>Kurt Waltenbaugh
>ECCO, Ward 10
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>List Manager
>Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:48 PM
>To: Mpls list
>Subject: [Mpls] Fun with parking ramps
>
>Forwarded on behalf of Greg Finstad - David Brauer, list manager
>
>Hello.  I'm Greg Finstad, director of transportation, City of Minneapolis.
>David Brauer's posting of Tuesday, April 17th implying that the City is
>turning away business at its parking ramps on downtown's western edge isn't
>really accurate and needs some context. On Sunday, April 15, those arriving
>for the Timberwolves game and parking in the City's ramps at 5th Street and
>7th Street were given a flier that alerted them to parking alternatives
>within reasonable distance of the Target Center. The major message was that
>there are lots of places to park downtown and if you are concerned about
>congestion at one ramp, walking a little further can mean a shorter wait.
>
>Here's why the flyer:
>
>1.      The Timberwolves approached us at the City because they had gotten
>feedback from some frustrated ticket holders that, in their view, it was
>taking them too long to exit the ramps after the games.  Minneapolis' ramps
>are well designed for timely exiting, but a nearly full ramp is going to
>take longer to empty. The City's two ramps close to the Target Center are
>favorites because of their skyway connections to the Target Center.
>
>2.      The City's ramp management and the Timberwolves felt it would be
>helpful if people just knew more about all the available parking facilities
>so that if they needed to leave quicker, there are alternatives that might
>suit them.
>
>3.      We were thinking that if 200 to 300 folks (NOT 1,000 to 2,000, as
>David Brauer said) parked in an alternative ramp, the congestion would be
>eased noticeably.  And we also know that while there are three private
ramps
>listed on the flyer (some have special arrangements with the Timberwolves),
>the three City ramps listed, such as the new Hawthorne ramp, the ramp at
>10th and Hennepin or the 4th Street ramp, would be chosen by many of these
>folks who decide to park further away.  So revenues won't be noticeably
>reduced, which David Brauer also projected.  It just won't be the case.
>
>4.      As for the state of parking in that area if a baseball stadium is
>built, we can all assume that parking, and the ease of entering the area
and
>exiting, will be an important part of the planning.  Our existing ramps
will
>be of great service when it comes to planning such a facility and, if
built,
>for its ticket-holders, given that we have 8,470 City ramp spaces within
>walking distance, and the fact that we now bring in and then exit folks in
>very good time (better than most).
>
>So the bottom line:  if you are parked in a full ramp anywhere, it takes
>time to empty, especially after an event.  If you can't spend the time
>waiting, look for parking alternatives that may be less utilized and thus
>will be less congested.
>
>
>
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