A comrade of mine who lurked on the list for a while commented that 
most of the list members went a little bonkers when it came to tagging 
issues, so I tried to avoid the topic.  But I couldn't help making a 
comment on the 'gang scare' issue.  I that the primary point of my posting 
was that despite the fact that tagging is really obnoxious, ugly, and 
annoying, it doesn't mean that a crime wave is approaching.
     I can't help suggesting that comparing taggers to dogs pissing on 
walls is perhaps not the most subtle metaphor engaged to criticize tagging, 
but I'll be more direct.  No, I don't like tagging.  I think that putting 
graffitti on people's houses is abhorrent.  I'm not even that fond of it on 
small businesses or even to tell the truth large businesses.  But, I do 
hold the possibility open for graffitti as a subversive art form.  I think 
that activities such as billboard reclamation (where the messages on 
billboards are edited and manipulated) is positive.  I have nothing against 
creative art put on abandoned buildings (not a major occurance in 
Minneapolis)  Personally, if someone wrote 'sexist' on every objectifying 
bus shelter, I wouldn't have a complaint either.
     Tagging makes the city ugly, but so do many legal activities such as 
billboards and the target center.  And frankly, I find those two more 
obnoxious than the tagging.
     To reiterate, my last post was not the Taggers' Manifesto, It was just 
crititcal of 'gang scare' tactics, which I might note WERE in fact started 
by the police in the mid-nineties.

   Robert Wood, femino-marxist/green party member
   St Paul resident, university employee

PS One last note concerning landlords, from my personal experience in Mpls 
with renting, and the experience of most of my friend who I have discussed 
the issue with, it would nice to see our landlords do anything concerning 
the property that they own.  My St Paul landlord on the other hand will fix 
things on occasion.


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