And, of course, once again I forgot to sign my post; Robert Schmid Central
On Thursday, July 18, 2002, at 03:43 PM, Robert Schmid wrote: > > On Thursday, July 18, 2002, at 01:32 PM, Michael Atherton wrote: > >> Terrell Brown wrote: >> >>> Now, that's not easy. Student performance isn't necessarily a >>> measure >>> of teacher effectiveness. >> >> If student performance isn't a measure of teacher effectiveness then >> what is? Speaking in the aggregate of course. > > Wow, I think I suddenly understand the problem with your statement > Michael. A minute ago I agreed with you wholeheartedly. > > It lies in the word "effective" where most people are just trying to > confirm that our teachers are "good". I can see a situation where a > teacher is brilliant, creative, caring, dilligent and hard working but > in which he/she has no "effect" on one or more students. > > In this situation, most people look immediately at the teacher and > blame him/her for that student's failure to learn. However that > student has many other influences which may make them apathetic or > resistant to learning including family, peers and even the school > system itself. > > No student will learn unless they WANT to learn. Currently I would say > that our society as a whole does more to encourage students toward > athletics, entertainment and apathy than toward learning. We as a > society have made it acceptable, even normal to be a "dummy". It is > humorous in our society to be unable to program our VCRs, we have whole > series of books called "for dummies" and "Complete Idiot's Guide to". > Public Billboards and advertising sport bad spelling and worse > grammar. Our news access is controlled by "Spin Doctors" whose job it > is to make the news understandable. > > Student performance is a measure of the Student's ability. Not much > more. > > _______________________________________ > Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn > E-Democracy > Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > http://e-democracy.org/mpls _______________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
