You are not quite right on this matter.  Steve Frenz is complaining based on
2 reasons:

1. Sewer rates for homes and duplexes are based on water consumption levels
during low-use winter months,  while sewer rates for all others are based on
actual water use, including the high-use summer months - see the difference?

2. The cost of storm sewer projects is based on water consumption, not on
the size of the lot as it should be.  I do not think it rains more heavily
on apartment buildings than houses or duplexes.  A 22 unit building that
sits on 3 city lots does not produce any more runoff than 3 houses on the
same 3 lots, yet their proportion is 7 times higher - see the difference?

Also in Mpls, our rates are 3 times higher than the rate in Edina.
We have the 6th highest rate of the largest 30 cities in the Country and are
higher than all except Boston of the older cities that have major water
infrastructure rebuilding.

Why you ask?   All of us  know that politicians do not want to raise real
estate taxes, so they go to other areas to get the money. That is why water
and sewer rates have almost doubled in the last 8 years.  You can thank the
old City Hall crowd for that.

Steve Meldahl
Jordan (work)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sheldon Mains" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Discuss Minneapolis (E-mail)'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Mpls] Uptown Apartment Bldgs Sold (City Regulations Blamed)


> OK, this makes it clear some people who claim regulatory problems don't
> have a clue.
>
> Minneapolis does not charge for "storm water"  It does charge for
> sanitary sewer use.  In Minneapolis it is illegal to have storm water
> run-off going into the sanitary sewer.
>
> Minneapolis charges for SANITARY sewer use based on the amount of water
> used in the building in the winter (don't know how that is defined
> exactly). The theory is that, in the winter, all the water used in a
> building goes down the sewer.  The summer bills are estimated based on
> the winter bills so you are not charged for SANITARY sewer use for water
> you put on your garden or your yard or use to wash your car.  How this
> penalizes multifamily buildings is beyond me.
>
> Sheldon mains, seward, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> "The key issue raising (Frenz's) blood pressure is the way Minneapolis
> calculates storm-water fees based on the amount of water used within a
> building. Most cities instead calculate how much runoff storm water a
> property produces, he said.
>
> "Minneapolis' method unfairly penalizes multifamily apartment buildings
> because those buildings use more water, but that additional water use
> has nothing to do with storm water, Frenz said."
>
> Bill Dooley
> Kenny
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