I'm beginning to see the benefits of just lurking and not answering. This will be the last DFL post I try to add some accurate info to, although it's apparent John is not looking for truth or solution, just a fence to throw his mud on. This whole post could have been sent to me in private.
--- John Kremer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > JK: I did not use the word "contrived" or imply > such. As a > > DFLer, your response saddens me; you just don't > seem to "get it". The party needs to do > > better job of inclusion to communities of color > regardless of your already great efforts. EM: I was answering the inquiries on what HAS the DFL done to encourage participation. If you read my post from today (and the one in response to your post)you will see the effort is ongoing. Let's cut the buzzwords and tell me what don't I get. Nobody said the efforts were great, just they are that, efforts where there were none. As far as my response saddening you, buck up. I'm amazed at the people who've written offline about the efforts. It's encouraging and let's me know we're at least going in the right direction. > > (Last years Statewide DFL ticket in November did > not have a candidate of color until you > > reached "Sherif Lopez". Currently there are No > visible DFL Citycouncil persons of Color in > > Minneapolis. Zero. Nada. No Latinos. No Black > Dflers. There were more African-American > > DFLers on the City Council in the 70's.) I'm sure > you've all been working hard down at > > headquarters but these are the facts. EM: Do you understand that the Party endorses candidates (in May) and voters vote in the primaries(in September). Sometimes they don't deliver the endorsed candidate. Should we force or strong arm other challengers out of the race? Again, the state DFL endorsed and ran candidates of color for EVERY level of political jurisdiction they have (Federal, Constitutional, County and Legislative). Darryl Stanton, candidate for US House dist 3, was still on the ballot. Maybe you should be talking to the voters in Minneapolis about that. In my opinion, you had a great Mayor who was African American that turned that city around and it wasn't good enough. JK: > In terms of your " grass-roots and open" comment, > that sounds like something that Dubya might > say. Outreach and opportunity is more than just > having the doors open. Your defensiveness is > revealing; your lack of historical context, frankly, > is sobering. Feel free to contact me > offline if you would like to continue these > discussions. What's the point of this paragraph? To try and flame me or make yourself seem so smart by saying nothing? Congradulations. My earlier posts were simply correcting the lies. You're a perfect example, you've moved from saying the DFL has done nothing to saying the DFL hasn't done enough. I agree, but we're still working it everyday John. Historical context? I'm part of a staff that came in three years ago, give or take a few months. Where were you when things were going to hell? Anyone who is semi-literate read that much more has gone into our efforts outside of 'opening the door'. Go back and re-read it, unless your point is to try and be a smartass. For your entertainment, here's some real Dubya speak- "I shall be compassionate and end this thread and conservative enough to keep the rest of my comments to myself." Eric Mitchell Maple Grove __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls