In a message dated 12/21/2003 11:20:59 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WM: But in the end, we still got another straight, white male. Ho and then hum. I'm not impressed. This guy does not necessarily ever think outside his privilege. There appears to be no reason for him to do so, since his privilege has stood him in good stead, advanced his career, etc. No matter how you slice it, we're getting a pig in a poke (no disrespect to officers intended). We have no idea whether he will prove out, whether he will move in a year or two. We know virtually nothing about him JP: I have to disagree with you Wizard, he thinks outside of his privilege already, if for no other reason than his family. First, though, your second line is really unfair in that none of the candidates "necessarily think outside their privilege", but there are certain matters in which each one has demonstrated their thinking outside their privilege, and McManus is no exception. If you want to learn about him as I did, a quick search on Google will find you some of the following:
http://www.ci.dayton.oh.us/police/policechiefbio.asp http://mpdc.dc.gov/info/districts/1st/mcmanus.shtm http://www.ci.dayton.oh.us/news/news_data/policereorganization.asp Allow me to highlight a few key lines showing how he "thinks outside his privilege": *Dayton Police Chief William McManus today announced organizational changes that will streamline the Police Department structure and create the opportunity for more minorities to be added to the command staff * Serves as department's liaison to gay and lesbian community. (This is from the Dayton bio) * Increased morale by elimination double-standard discipline. And that's just five minutes worth of work, anybody really interested in finding out about McManus will not have a problem. More to the point, he has an interracial marriage and family. As a member of both of these myself, I can tell you that you cannot seriously be a part of either and not think outside your privilege. McManus has gone over and above the call of duty and regardless of who you wanted or liked, that kind of committment deserves and demands ones respect. A lot of people wanted other people. I wanted an internal candidate and specifically liked both Sharon and Lucy, but they're not the option presented and honestly evaluating McManus calls for one to look at what is necessary to fill the role, and whether or not he has what it takes, not whether or not he's your favorite. Unfortunately, that's what a lot of people are doing and coming up with ghost fears like "we don't know anything about him" and "he might leave soon". Well I've already shown that you can find something in five minutes on the internet and as for "mights", MN might get hit by a tornado tomorrow, highly unlikely but it "might" happen. Doesn't mean you should stay indoors. After listening to the man, talking with him and his wife, doing a little research and talking with the committee, I think he is the right person for the job, and I would encourage anyone serious about this to take a good hard look at him...through eyes unclouded by preference. I think what you see will make a world of difference. Jonathan Palmer Victory REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls