Annie Young wrote:
"In the meantime, without knowing the schematic design of the proposed fields I can honestly say I don't think we are talking a stadium here "


Peter Vevang writes:
The way I think the process should work for a typical project like this is as 
follows:

   1. Due diligence: feasibility, title search, site examination, rough
   budget, benchmarking
   2. Pre-design: establish the project program, goals and criteria
   (usually accompanied by a master plan with concept sketches for a
   project like this) '*Public participation*'and if necessary back to
   step 1, or the end of the process.
   3. Budget and final design program
   4. Authorize the project: purchase the site, prepare a survey, issue
   RFP's, authorize design contracts, build the team and begin the
   process towards construction.
   5. Architectural Design: schematic design, design development and
   constructions drawings and specifications.
   6. Bids, final financing, final budget, schedule, insurance and
   construction contracts signed
   7. Construction

Citizen input should begin long before the "schematic design" phase.  That is 
at step 5, after the project has been approved for construction.  For true citizen 
involvement to take place, we will need to start the public process at the end of step 2, 
before all the major decisions have been made and the project has been given approval and 
the site has been purchased (or leased).

In my opinion, if the design ideas don't exist, we shouldn't be wasting time 
and money on a fiction.  If they do exist, they have no good reason to keep 
them secret since this is not private property they want to use.  I think a lot 
of boosters are getting caught up in the tortured legal history of the site 
since the late 1970's and have stopped looking at the bigger picture and trying 
to communicate.  Solid things to talk about will make that process much clearer 
and less messy for everyone involved.

We also need that master plan to understand the full big picture ramifications 
of this project.  This is a key piece of beautiful property linking the river, 
north to south, at the juncture of DT Minneapolis, that is why it was saved in 
the first place.  It could not be more strategic.  Whether or not it is a 
stadium is not the most important thing.  We should be looking at the big 
picture use of this site as our primary concern.  We need to elevate that 
conversation.  We deserve excellent and thorough answers on this or I fear we 
will blow it, and given past development blunders, that is a well founded fear.

Peter Vevang
Audubon

p.s. can anyone confirm, did people really ride donkeys and horses there all 
the way up to the 1970's?  What was that all about?


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