>>>>> "gg" == gemgram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
gg> The laws against sleeping outside are aimed only at the gg> homeless who have no where else to sleep. When was the last gg> time a "Homed" someone was arrested for sleeping while sitting gg> on a park bench? When was the last time a "homed" someone was gg> arrested for sleeping while laying on a blanket by Lake gg> Calhoun or Lake of the Isles? [...snip...] gg> Those who allow laws against being poor or who do nothing gg> about such conditions sort of come to mind when contemplating gg> that law. The only time some people are not hypocrites is in gg> their sleep. I try to remember this when I see a politician gg> who is awake. Actually, couldn't there be unintended consequences to making it legal to sleep outdoors? If it's illegal to sleep outdoors, you can pick up someone when it's 20 below, and take them somewhere to sleep. If it's ok, what do you do? Just let them freeze to death? Or is there something in the law that would allow you to remove people on the grounds that they pose a risk to themselves (the same way you can sometimes temporarily imprison someone who is psychotic)? [...snip...] gg> I actually have been told by more than one public official gg> that the reason we don't use the buildings is that it would gg> cost too much to bring them up to code to allow someone too gg> sleep there. Actually, there are lots of things like this. Under most circumstances, you can't just give unused prepared food to the homeless. Sounds heartless, but what happens the first time someone gets some hideous disease from eating food off someone else's plate? Likewise, what happens if you let people sleep in any old not-up-to-code building, and they get killed when a floor collapses? I think your outrage is getting you carried away here. Sometimes things are less crazy than they seem... -- Robert P. Goldman ECCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls