Neal E. Simons writes:

"The University Avenue S.E. routing of LRT is a 
bad idea because it would increase neighborhood 
traffic and parking problems and would cause 
a physical division of the Prospect Park 
neighborhood.   Also, the University Avenue 
routing might cause the loss of our drugstore, 
automobile repair facility, and barbershop.

"An alternative route that would be two blocks 
to the north from 27th Avenue S.E. to two 
blocks inside St. Paul would the only
appropriate route other than along I-94."

Ed Felien asks:

"Why doesn't the proposed Mpls to St Paul route use existing railroad right
of way? with a single stop at the U?

"Do we have that much money to burn?   Do we need to take more homes?   Do we
need to have fast trains moving through neighborhoods?

"I just don't get it."


Bill Kahn sees errors and oversimplifications:

Neal Simons is mistaken in his view of Central Corridor LRT. As the Pioneer 
Press article that precipitated this discussion explains, there will be reduced 
parking and as yet unknown traffic problems associated with CC LRT on 
University Avenue; so Simons is correct here, but predicting the loss of any 
University Avenue businesses in Southeast Minneapolis is unfounded—there are no 
condemnations contemplated along the University Ave. route. The existing 
separation 
of the Prospect Park neighborhood by University Avenue will not be 
significantly changed by CC LRT, so he's painting another misleading picture 
here. 
Simons' assumption that any buildings along University Avenue will be lost is 
pure 
conjecture and unsupported by any of the planning done so far, planning that 
has been parallel with efforts of the neighborhood to establish an historical 
district to provide for an extra degree of protection (and Becca Vargo Daggett, 
it is "Schneider Drug" not "Snyder" as in the big chain). An I-94 allignment 
does not make much sense either, at least for LRT.

Contrary to what Ed Felien might believe, there are no unused RR corridors on 
which to route CC LRT; the three railroads using them are not declining and, 
though compatible with commuter rail, sharing them will not work for LRT. We 
may not have money to burn, but we have federal funds to spend on LRT and we'd 
better spend them or risk losing them. Felien is mistaken about the existence 
of any homes to "take" anywhere on any of the proposed alignments for CC LRT 
and that we don't need something moving fast through the neighborhood, but I'm 
content to let it move on University Ave. or I-94. It is hard to "get it" when 
you base your opinions on whims.

Having said all that, perhaps LRT is not the ideal answer for connecting St. 
Paul and Minneapolis downtowns (cough, cough); regionally, much more can be 
accomplished using the same concepts of BRT combined with HOV lanes put forth 
for I-35W to replace and improve upon I-94 Metro Transit express routes. I 
drive 
I-94 quite a bit and with commuter traffic to and from Wisconsin during the 
rush hours the congestion may equal that of I-35W. BRT may lack some of the 
revitalization magic LRT boosters have come to expect but tweaking an existing 
system is a whole lot easier and less expensive than starting from scratch as 
many have pointed out in the Southwest Corridor subject threads; a hub 
connecting BRT to Hiawatha LRT at the Metrodome site can't hurt redevelopment 
once 
sports teams no longer use it. Once CC LRT reaches Washington Ave., SE in the U 
of 
MN area, it begins to look like trying cramming ten pounds of 'stuff' into a 
five pound bag if it does not go way under that nice layer of limestone 
beneath the street level of which the U makes such good use and wants unspoiled 
for 
all time. Still, if we don't go underground with CC LRT, as much as I like 
LRT, I'd rather see BRT piggy backed on I-94 since it is parallel to all the 
planned alignments.

FYI, the latest Met. Council transportation plan is at:

http://www.metrocouncil.org/planning/transportation/TPP/2004/summary.htm

Bill Kahn
Prospect Park







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