Two possibilities: 1. The value of TRIGINT for your queue manager is set to
90 minutes 2. The transid of the failing transaction somehow got set to
DISABLED and someone reset it to ENABLED around the 90 minute mark.





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Hello,
We experienced a problem yesterday, where an application transaction, which
is a triggered transaction initiated by CKTI, encountered an error when
doing a database command.  This transaction did not do a disconnect after
the error.  Messages accumulated in the trigger queue for 90 minutes,
before CKTI restarted the application transaction.  Does anybody have any
idea why CKTI would wait 90 minutes before restarting the application
transaction?  We are running CICS 4.1, and MQSeries 2.1 on OS/390 2.4.
Thank you for any comments or observations.



Sandy Gephart
Systems Programmer
Foremost Insurance
616-956-4779
Making IT Happen
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            -----Original Message-----
            From:   Rick Tsujimoto [
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            Alessandro,


            I think that's the work-around Bruce was looking for.






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            Dick,
            sorry but this is not true: I installed MQ on a couple of W2K
            Server box,
            remotely located, and I operate all the QMGR via Terminal
            Server, It seem
            to me there is a bug in the TS software giving to the
            application running
            (MQ-Explorer) some bas TCP/IP info. Explorer run as usual as
            long as I add
            the Qmanager to the MQExplorer as a remote one, (ie Add Qmgr ->
            Qmgr name /
            IP address(port))


            HTH
            Alessandro


            At 12:03 PM 7/24/2002 -0400, you wrote:
            >Bruce,
            >
            >I don't recall any white paper, or URL, but I did post a
            response by IBM
            on
            >this topic a while ago:
            >
            >Richard,
            >
            >Here is the item that we discussed.
            >
            >Dick Hamilton
            >
            >153.PRB
            >Abstract
            >Microsoft Terminal Server/Services does NOT work with
            MQSeries.
            >
            >MQSeries and Windows Terminal Server should co-exist on the
            same machine
            >and each
            >should function correctly. However, the use or management of
            MQSeries
            >Server through a
            >terminal session is known not to work, and as such is not
            supported.
            >
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            >
            >
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            >
            >                       Bruce Baxter
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            >                       07/24/2002 09:22 AM
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            >
            >
            >Some time back I recall someone posting a white paper or a
            link to a white
            >paper about why MQ Series can't be installed and/or operated
            via Microsoft
            >Windows Terminal services.  I had experienced this problem
            first-hand
            >during the installation of MQ V5.2 on a W2K system and wanted
            to
            understand
            >why it doesn't work.  Thus far, I haven't been able to track
            this down in
            >the listserv archives or on mqseries.net.
            >
            >Does anyone have a copy of this white paper or a link to it
            that they
            could
            >sent me?
            >
            >Also, the V5.3 Quick Beginnings guide for Windows, seems to
            intimate that
            >V5.3 can be installed and/or operated via Windows Terminal
            Services.
            >Chapter 2 mentions Windows Terminal Serivces as 'Optional
            Client
            Software'.
            >Has anyone tried to install or operate V5.3 using Windows
            Terminal
            >Services?  If so, I'd be interested to know what your
            experience was.
            >
            >Regards.
            >Bruce Baxter
            >CICS/MQ Systems Programmer
            >NYS Dept of Tax and Finance.
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