Usually those symptoms indicate a mismatched or mispelled definition
between what is in the application and the MQ objects.
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The solution actually isn't very interesting. I looked at the use count of
the program after the CICS region comes up (and messages are sitting on the
queue), and it is non-zero, indicating that the transaction is getting
triggered but not opening the queue and processing the messages (I don't
have a tool to see when the transaction ran and was relying on the
programmer's report). Also, the TRIGINT was 999999, not 60 seconds - I'd
looked at the wrong queue manager. Fortunately I figured this all out
before gathering a trace and sending it to IBM.
-----Original Message-----
From: MCSHEFFREY, MICHELLE (AIT)
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:05 AM
To: 'MQSeries List'
Subject: RE: Triggering when CKTI comes up
Thanks for everyone's replies. In our case, we are not getting a trigger
when CICS and CKTI come up, nor are we getting a trigger after the TRIGINT
of 60 seconds have passed when new messages arrive on the trigger queue.
If
I flip the trigger to N then back to Y, it does generate a trigger, though,
so it seems triggering is working in general. I will continue to work with
IBM on this and post the solution if turns out to be something interesting.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Raabe, Stefan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:54 AM
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Subject: AW: Triggering when CKTI comes up
No :-)
After CKTI startup there is an immediate trigger as explained
by others some messages before
trigger interval works different. its not a time interval after
that queues are scanned if they should be triggered again, its
a time interval that has to be expirered after the last trigger
message was generated and a new message that is put to the queue.
read system application programmers guide for details.
regards
stefan
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Von: Chan, Ian M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Betreff: Re: Triggering when CKTI comes up
I think it also depends on the trigger interval. Once the CKTI is up and
running, the trigger message will be generated within the trigger interval
period.
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2002 8:02 AM
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Subject: Re: Triggering when CKTI comes up
One of the times that the QM checks to see if a trigger message should be
generated is when the INIT queue IPROCS count goes from 0 to 1.
I would think that when CKT1 is brought up, it opens the INIT queue, and if
no other app had the init queue open, the IPROCS would then go from 0 to 1.
The queue manager would check to see if any queues meet trigger criteria,
and would see that your triggered on first queue had more than zero
messages
on it, and would thus trigger.
I tested this behaviour on distributed and it does exactly that. Don't know
if CICS would be different. The triggering manual doesn't say so.
http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/html/csqzal06/csqzal06tfrm.htm
Chapter 14, Section 13.D
Peter Potkay
IBM MQSeries Certified Specialist, Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X 77906
-----Original Message-----
From: MCSHEFFREY, MICHELLE (AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Triggering when CKTI comes up
If there are messages on a queue that is set to trigger a CICS transaction
on FIRST, and the CICS region is down, will a trigger message be generated
when the CICS region and CKTI trigger monitor first come up? I thought
yes,
but IBM support just told me no. I don't want to spend a lot of time
looking at the wrong problem (we're getting a trigger when CICS comes up in
production but not in test), so please someone tell me which is correct.
Thanks.
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