SOAP does not describe the transport method. SOAP can be implemented over HTTP, SMTP, etc. However, these protocols lack the "assuredness" WMQ provides. I believe future releases of HTTP will include assured delivery and other QOS features.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/03 11:07AM >>> I think a lot of people consider Web Services to be a standard that provides for 1) a means of describing how a 'service' will be called (a 'contract' that describes a function(s), the response(s) and the data types of the parameters), and 2) a means of providing a place (directory) where these service descriptions can be accessed. If you think of SOAP as the set of XML that describes the function call, as well as the actual content/payload, then you can relate object oriented programming to SOAP and Web Services by saying that Web Services is the class, and a SOAP message is the instance of the class. I know that's not quite right, but the point is that SOAP is the message content. It could go over MQ or over HTTP. You still have to send and receive it. Right now SOAP listeners are built into HTTP servers in most cases. I'm not familiar with the MQ SOAP listener.. Someone help me out here.. Does the MQ SOAP listener actually examine the SOAP content, determine the application and start it, passing the SOAP Body to it?? I vaguely remember that you have to 'predefine' the application for the SOAP listener per queue.. Something has to translate the XML-described request for a function call, into the native environment's "call a program" process. If not, then there is still customization to be done. SOAP over HTTP is probably easier just because it is 'built in' to a lot of web browsers/app servers. I could be wrong but SOAP over MQ is just as standardized as SOAP over HTTP; it's what happens at the endpoint that is proprietary/customized. -----Original Message----- From: mqm mqm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XML over HTTP and MQ If you do SOAP over MQ does that mean you're not doing Web Services because you are using a proprietary protocol (MQ) rather than an open internet standard protocol (http). Views anyone ? mqm --- "Heggie, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It lacks a bunch of things.. > > XML over HTTP - when you don't care enough to send > the very best.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Cornell > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:13 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: XML over HTTP and MQ > > > HTTP lacks WMQ's "assured" delivery. > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/02/03 08:29AM >>> > Where does or how does MQ fit into the XML over HTTP > space ? Seems like this > method potentially does not need MQ as the > middleware. > > > > Wesley Shaw > OJRP 10th Floor > Work: 804 771 3589 (736-3589) > Pager: 888 436 2805 Mobile 804 512 5260 > > Instructions for managing your mailing list > subscription are provided in the > Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive > > Instructions for managing your mailing list > subscription are provided in the > Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are > confidential to National Grid and are intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to > whom they are addressed. If you have received this > e-mail in error, please contact the National Grid > USA Enterprise Support Center on 508-389-3375 or > 315-428-6360. > > Instructions for managing your mailing list > subscription are provided in > the Listserv General Users Guide available at > http://www.lsoft.com > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
