I beg to differ!

A commit takes place under the scope of a connection handle.  When a channel
exit connects to the queue manager, it will get back an HCONN, but the
reason code will be MQRC_ALREADY_CONNECTED and the HCONN it gets is the same
one the MCA is using, so any commits issues by the exit *will* interfere
with the commits issued by the MCA.

David
-----Original Message-----
From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ruzi R
Sent: 03 September 2003 12:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MVS msg exit (MQPUT) processing causes increase in MSTR
region size.


> be careful with the suggestion from Ruzi.
>
> The message exit runs inside the unit of work for
> the MCA. If you commit,
> then you are committing the channel's work as well.

Not true. The application's commit is separate from
Channel's commit. Channel's commit depends on
BATCHSZ/BATCHINT attributes.

Ruzi

--- Neil Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Dax (are you a DS9 fan?)
>
> be careful with the suggestion from Ruzi.
>
> The message exit runs inside the unit of work for
> the MCA. If you commit,
> then you are committing the channel's work as well.
>
> You shouldn't have to worry about not committing in
> your exit as the MCA
> will issue a commit for every batch.
>
> I have no idea why your real storage usage is rising
> only when your exit is
> run, but to test it out, try running your programs
> without any exits, and
> at the same time run a local program which inserts
> the same message load as
> the exit would do. Look at the memory usage after
> this test and compare
> with running your exit to determine if your exit is
> behaving badly. I would
> also suggest checking the virtual usage as well as
> real. If the virtual
> usage is unchanged, then what you are seeing is not
> a leek, but a change in
> the working set in an unconstrained system. This
> would represent normal
> behaviour. Your system is clearly unconstrained
> because your paging rate is
> 0.
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil Casey.
>
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> The first thing that came to my mind (without
> reading
> all the deatils carefully-- not that I could
> understand the code all that much) is that, it might
> be caused by a delayed "commit"??? From your code, I
> think you are using the default MQPMO. On the
> mainframe the Syncpoint is the default (
> Syncpoint=yes).  Looks like you are not commiting
> each
> message after each PUT (or after so many messages).
> When you diconnect without the explicit commit, an
> implicit commit occurs committing all the 1000
> messages. In the meantime, the 1000 messages
> (depending on on their size probably) may be causing
> the space to expand. Since you are experimenting, I
> suggest you try using a commit after every (or say
> 10
> messages) and see whether you get the some problem.
>
> I don"t know if the above is causing your problem,
> but
> I thought I would share my opinion with you anyway.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ruzi
>
> --- d a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To the MVS people on the list....
> >
> > I have been  playing  around with the following
> > message exit code  it all
> > works fine  BUT, I have just noticed that the MSTR
> > address spaces for the 2
> > queue mgrs I am testing on expands considerably
> not
> > a good thing !!!!
> >
> > Here is the setup, I have 2 queue mgrs QMG1 and
> > QMG2, and a set of SDR/RCVR
> > channels between them, all with the exit defined
> as
> > a message exit on them.
> > I then send through 1000 messages in both
> directions
> > to drive the exit
> > defined on the RCVR and SDR channels.
> >
> > The result  Note the Real storage frames:
> >
> > Before processing:
> > -----------------
> > JOBNAME ,StepName,ProcStep,JobID   ,Owner
> > ,C,Pos,DP,Real,Paging,   SIO
> > QMG1MSTR QMG1MSTR PROCSTEP STC05201 QMG1MSTR   NS
> > FE 8084   0.00   0.00
> > QMG1CHIN QMG1CHIN PROCSTEP STC05203 QMG1CHIN   IN
> > FB 2897   0.00   0.00
> >
> > JOBNAME ,StepName,ProcStep,JobID   ,Owner
> > ,C,Pos,DP,Real,Paging,   SIO
> > QMG2MSTR QMG2MSTR PROCSTEP STC05202 QMG2MSTR   NS
> > FE 8056   0.00   0.00
> > QMG2CHIN QMG2CHIN PROCSTEP STC05204 QMG2CHIN   IN
> > FB 2970   0.00   0.00
> >
> >
> > After processing:
> > -----------------
> > JOBNAME ,StepName,ProcStep,JobID   ,Owner
> > ,C,Pos,DP,Real,Paging,   SIO
> > QMG1MSTR QMG1MSTR PROCSTEP STC05201 QMG1MSTR   NS
> > FE  10T   0.00   0.00
> > QMG1CHIN QMG1CHIN PROCSTEP STC05203 QMG1CHIN   IN
> > FB 3307   0.00   0.00
> >
> > JOBNAME ,StepName,ProcStep,JobID   ,Owner
> > ,C,Pos,DP,Real,Paging,   SIO
> > QMG2MSTR QMG2MSTR PROCSTEP STC05202 QMG2MSTR   NS
> > FE  10T   0.00   0.00
> > QMG2CHIN QMG2CHIN PROCSTEP STC05204 QMG2CHIN   IN
> > FB 3299   0.00   0.00
> >
> >
> > I have determined that the problem is with the
> MQPUT
> > processing  if I
> > comment it out, then the region size of the MSTR
> is
> > fine. But why it
> > happening  I don t know.
> >
> > A few other things to mention:
> >
> > -       The TESTEXIT is non-APF in a non-APF
> > authorized library (as it should be).
> > -       It has been linked with CSQXSTUB.
> > -       I have validated that the Getmain /
> Freemain
> > processing I do is okay.
> > -       Queue mgrs are both 5.3
> > -       I replaced the MQOPEN, MQPUT, MQCLOSE with
> > an MQPUT1 and got the exact
> > same results.
> >
> > SO  why why why is this happening  please help is
> > you can.
> >
> > Thanks very much in advance for any assistance.
> >
> > Thanks  Dax
> >
> >
> > The code follows: As mentioned, I have been
> playing
> > with this so there is no
> > real functionality to what follows, other than it
> > will write a message to
> > queue named: TEST.EXIT.QUEUE each time it is
> > invoked, for INIT, MSG, XMIT,
> > TERM processing, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > TESTEXIT TITLE 'TESTEXIT - Test exit'
> > *
>
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