That's just the default persistence if the application chooses to use it.
The application can explicitly set the persistence and the queue has no
control over that.

Nick


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe H. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 2:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lost messages

Yes we are using Sender/receiver pairs between the machines.   I have
included the screens showing the persistence = *yes.  Is this where I
should check?  Am I missing something somewhere?

Thanks in advance for everyone's help!


Alias Queue

Queue manager name . . . . . . :   SDCA_QM

Queue name . . . . . . . . . . :   FF_AQ_WMS2.UPLOADS.SUN_PIX_P.WD0061

Queue type . . . . . . . . . . :   *ALS
Text 'description' . . . . . . :   AQ0000220

Put enabled  . . . . . . . . . :   *YES
Default message priority . . . :   0
Default message persistence  . :   *YES
Default binding  . . . . . . . :   *OPEN
Get enabled  . . . . . . . . . :   *YES
Target queue . . . . . . . . . :   FF_QRMT_WMS2.UPLOADS.SUN_PIX

XMIT Queue
Queue manager name . . . . . . :   SDCA_QM

Queue name . . . . . . . . . . :   FF_QXMT_SUN.TO.PRDA_PIX

Queue type . . . . . . . . . . :   *LCL
Text 'description' . . . . . . :   QXMT00029

Put enabled  . . . . . . . . . :   *YES
Default message priority . . . :   0
Default message persistence  . :   *YES
Process name . . . . . . . . . :
Joan Hughes
IT Specialist

Phone: 608-827-3523
Fax: 608-662-6523

I am only as strong as the cocktails I drink, the hairspray I use and the
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I am quessing that you are using sender/receiver channels between the two
queue managers.

Have you checked that the remote queue definition and the transmit queue
have persistent of yes.

How do you know that the actual messages being lost have persistent=yes?

Jim





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We have a situation that I need help finding the cause.

Application A running on Queue manager A on iSeries 5.1 sends messages to
Application B running on Queue manager B on iSeries 5. MQ5.2 CSD07 on both
machines

We have found that when Queue manager B is down for IPL we will loose
messages from Application A .  These are persistent messages.

I am looking for a way to track the messages from point a to point b.  This
will help prove this is either a MQ problem or a application issue.

Joan Hughes
IT Specialist
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Phone: 608-827-3523
Fax: 608-662-6523

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