Roger I didn't find that when we deployed. What version of MSMQ was it that you looked into?
Neil -----Original Message----- From: Roger Lacroix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 April 2004 17:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Comparative study MQSeries, JMS, MSMQ All, Several years ago I looked into this question, and at that time I found one hidden cost for MSMQ that nobody talked about. MSMQ requires MS SQL database. MSMQ uses MS SQL to store / hold the messages (you cannot use Oracle or DB2). Therefore, if you were, say an Oracle shop, then you would be forced to buy MS SQL to use the 'FREE' MSMQ!!!! Sometimes apples don't compare very well to oranges!! :)) Regards, Roger Lacroix Capitalware Inc. http://www.capitalware.biz Quoting "Taylor, Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In summary: > > MSMQ is a Microsoft specific product that comes bundled with various flavours > of Windows Server - from windows NT upwards I believe. Hence NT Server, > Win2K Server and Win2003 Server. Here you get the "MSMQ" Server. You can > run clients (dependent or independent) from other versions of the operating > systems mentioned - such as Win2K pro. However there are a lot of > restrictions to running an MSMQ network - the main one being you can ONLY run > on Windows machines. Further, you have to have certain Domain and Active > Directory settings as well. I found MSMQ VERY complicated to set up - you > have to set a whole list of stuff up in loads of places across the O/S. One > thing I did like however is that you have two sets of Q's - transacted and > non-transacted. If you want MSMQ to talk to, say, MQSeries, you must > purchase the MSMQ Bridge that is included in the MS Host Integration Server > suite. Not easy to configure either. I'm not sure if there are bridges to > other products? > > MQSeries is one of the original messaging and queuing systems. It has broad > platform coverage, is widely used in industries such as Finance for critical > systems. It has been around for getting on 10 years now. The business. > > JMS is a Java standard specification. So each vendor (or provider in JMS > speak) implements the standard however they want. It is "free" if you use > Sun's JMS provider that comes as part of the J2EE SDK. As long as it > provides the services described in the JMS standard then it is JMS. The > standard does not say anything about inter-communication between DIFFERENT > JMS provider implmentations (that I know of). To achieve this you either > have to write your own bridge or use a vendor supplied one - such as > Weblogic's MQ Bridge. JMS can only be used by a calling java application. > The benefit is at the application level - swap out JMS providers at will if > you externalise the provider url etc. JMS is not a way to link across many > different jms providers domains! > > MQSeries supports a large number of different languages as well as a large > number of different platforms so in my opinion beats JMS, which in turn beats > MSMQ. MSMQ is likely the cheapest option for a homogenous envioronment if > you already have an MS Windows Server estate. Followed by JMS which most > companies would want to buy from a vendor and gain some kind of support etc. > And MQSeries is the big daddy where cost is concerned. But then again, it is > the rolls-royce of messaging. > > Neil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Warneke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 March 2004 16:25 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Comparative study MQSeries, JMS, MSMQ > > > Krishan > There is a book - Advanced Messaging Applications with > MSMQ and MQSeries by Rhys Lewis : ISBN.0-7897-2023-X. > This will give you some ammunition. > Chris > --- Mike Kenny - CPX Mngd Services > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as I know > > > > MSMQ supports amximum message size of 4Mb > > MQ Series is not very strong on pub/sub > > JMS, as stated below, is only an API specification. > > But there are many JMS compliant messaging > > providers, two that you might look at are JBoss and > > openjms, both open source projects > > > > MQ Series offers some support for JMS, but I do not > > know whether this covers the full API - I do not > > know how one would support pub/sub?????? > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wyatt, T. Rob > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Mon 3/29/2004 8:34 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: Comparative study MQSeries, JMS, MSMQ > > > > > > > > Krishnan, > > > > These are not directly comparable. Both Websphere > > MQ and MSMQ actually > > transport messages. JMS, on the other hand, is > > simply an API which requires > > an underlying message mover such as the other two. > > > > -- T.Rob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Krishan Agarwal > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:21 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Comparative study MQSeries, JMS, MSMQ > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am doing a comparative study of features and > > performance between > > MQSeries, JMS and MSMQ... will be grateful if > > somebody could pass some docs > > or data they have.. or specify the place where i > > could get it.. > > > > cheers > > krishan > > > > Instructions for managing your mailing list > > subscription are provided in > > the Listserv General Users Guide available at > > http://www.lsoft.com > > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. 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