Get inhibit the target queue and make sure the message gets there. , then 
get enable the queue and check if Biz Talk swallows it.

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Hi,

> When we look at the MQ header (from the sniffer output) it shows the 
expiry
> as -1.  Does this mean that it does not expire?

True.


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Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.
http://www.capitalware.biz


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> When we look at the MQ header (from the sniffer output) it shows the 
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> Use Queue Statistics on the reply queue to verify that the messages are
> arriving and getting picked up. You will have to turn on Performance
> Events at the QM level.
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> The MO71 support pack makes its very easy to look at these stats without
> having to write an app to do it. Most MQ monitoring tools use this as
> well, like QPASA.
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> Biztalk? Arrrrghhhhh!!!!!!!
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> Our BizTalk developers actually coded a put to a log queue as soon as
> the message was gotten. Apparently somewhere down the biztalk "pipeline"
> the transaction was getting dropped. It was NOT MQ losing the message.
> Using Queue Statistics you will be able to show them that.
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> Let me describe our dilema and if anyone has any suggestions on how we
> can troubleshoot this, it would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> We have a mainframe application that receives messages from a server
> based application on a queue.  The mainframe processes the message and
> puts a response on a queue (it gets this from the reply to queue/manager
> from the initial message).  The application that reads the response is a
> biztalk application and does a mqget every second to see if messages are
> waiting (I know thats alot of overhead, but until we can re-architect it
> I am stuck with it).
> 
> The problem is that we are intermittently losing messages.  The
> mainframe confirms that they are putting the response on the queue, and
> the biztalk application does not appear to be seeing it.  We put a
> network sniffer and we actually do see the mq message coming over the
> network.  We compared that message to one that was properly received and
> nothing jumps out at us.
> In a normal situation, as  soon as a message is picked off the queue it
> writes to a SQL database with tracking info.  The "lost" transactions
> are not appearing on the database.
> 
> 
> Now the questions:
> 
> Is there any way to turn on any MQ logging so we can see that the
> message is actually being picked off the queue?
> The queues are setup as persistent.  Is there anyway to interpret what
> is in the log/active folder to see what is going on?
> Can the MQ trace facility be used to help us?
> Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> In parallel, the developers are looking at the code to see if there is a
> flaw.  (maybe 2 messages arriving at the same time - it processes 1 and
> drops the next?).
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