Hi John,
What you say makes sense. I guess I am looking for a diagramatic way of
presenting and event driven function. I am not imaginative and don't think
"outside the square", but given a set of rules I can usually make them turn
somersalts inside the square. I just thought there may a technique already
established that I could use and would help my thought processes for ACCESS.
Thank you again for everything

Ilona
Adelaide, Australia

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  Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2006 7:37 AM
  To: ms_access@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ms_access] On No Data Help Please


  Ilona-

  Flowcharts make sense in a batch sequential system, but not in the global
  scope of event-driven systems. I still build flowcharts for navigation
  between forms and for complex bits of code inside functions or event
  procedures.

  John Viescas, author
  Building Microsoft Access Applications
  Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
  Running Microsoft Access 2000
  SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
  http://www.viescas.com/
  (Paris, France)
  For the inside scoop on Access 2007, see:
  http://blogs.msdn.com/access/


  -----Original Message-----
  From: ms_access@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
  Of Ilona Wright
  Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:15 PM
  To: ms_access@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ms_access] On No Data Help Please

  Thank you John. That makes sense.
  As you can see, I am still trying to get my head around event driven code.
  This is probably another dumb question, but do you know of any books that
  help/teach users "flowchart" (if anybody does that anymore) event driven
  systems?
  In the old days I used to flowchart everything, and because I don't know
  ACCESS and have developed my system through trial and error basis, it is
  very "murky". All I can flowchart is bits of events, but that is not
  satisfactory.
  If this question is out of the scope of this list, I understand.
  Thank you again for helping me out.

  Ilona
  Adelaide, Australia

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  From: ms_access@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of John Viescas
  Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2006 4:28 PM
  To: ms_access@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ms_access] On No Data Help Please

  Ilona-

  Your DoCmd.OpenReport is asking that a report be opened. Your code in the
  NoData event of the report discovers the report is empty, displays a
  message, and cancels the open. Your request to OpenReport hasn't finished
  when the NoData event runs. Because your code in NoData cancels the open,
  the code trying to do the OpenReport gets a 2501 Cancel error - it's the
  only way Access has to let the requesting code know that the OpenReport
  will
  fail. And if you think about it, you might want to do some other action in
  the code running the OpenReport if it is cancelled - and an On Error trap
  is
  the only way to do that.

  John Viescas, author
  Building Microsoft Access Applications
  Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
  Running Microsoft Access 2000
  SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
  http://www.viescas.com/
  (Paris, France)
  For the inside scoop on Access 2007, see:
  http://blogs.msdn.com/access/

  -----Original Message-----
  From: ms_access@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf
  Of Ilona Wright
  Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:47 AM
  To: ms_access@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ms_access] On No Data Help Please

  Thanks for this John.
  I'm sorry, but I do not understand why I need he On Error BEFORE the
  DoCmd.openReport.
  The way I see it,
  the DoCmd.OpenReport is called from code in a form.
  The On No Data event is run in the report that was opened.
  I expect the the Cancel to close the report, pass control back to the
  calling form and continue with the next line of code.
  Is my thinking wrong?
  Maybe Cancel = True is the wrong statement for what I want to do.
  Thanks again
  Ilona

  -----Original Message-----
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  Behalf Of John Viescas
  Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 5:22 PM
  To: ms_access@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ms_access] On No Data Help Please

  Ilona-

  Add an error trap around your DoCmd.OpenReport. Setting Cancel = True
  creates a trappable 2501 error - your code canceled the action requested
  by
  the OpenReport. It could be as simple as:

  On Error Resume Next
  DoCmd.OpenReport ...

  John Viescas, author
  Building Microsoft Access Applications
  Microsoft Office Access 2003 Inside Out
  Running Microsoft Access 2000
  SQL Queries for Mere Mortals
  http://www.viescas.com/
  (Paris, France)
  For the inside scoop on Access 2007, see:
  http://blogs.msdn.com/access/

  -----Original Message-----
  From: ms_access@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf
  Of Ilona Wright
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:43 AM
  To: ms_access@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [ms_access] On No Data Help Please

  Hi John,

  In the On No Data event of my Computer Register report I have
  Private Sub Report_NoData(Cancel As Integer)

  MsgBox "There is no data for this report. Canceling report..."

  Cancel = -1

  End Sub

  On pressing Enter to the MsgBox I get the error

  Run-time error '2501'

  The OpenReport action was cancelled.

  You used a method of the DoCmd object to carry out an action in Visual
  basic, but then clicked Cancel in a dialogue box.

  For example, you used the Close method to close a changed form, then
  clicked
  Cancel in the dialogue box that asks if you want to save the changes you
  made to the form.

  The Debug takes me to the DoCmd.OpenReport line that opened the report.

  If there is no data, how do I cancel the report and cleanly get back to my
  form?

  Thanks again in advance

  Ilona

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