Re-hello Vasi.

OK, I found the option in xfce4 to show the icons in menu.

But, sadly, the icons in mseide-menu are still not shown.
So it seems not to be related.

Fre;D
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Hello Vasi.

Indeed, there are no icons in xfce4 menus.
I think you get something there.

I did try to have the icons shown but did not find a option for that.

Maybe related with the not shown icons of mseide.

If you try the last commit of mseide-msegui, you should compile the mseide and 
run it.
There are 2 things that are not working (maybe more but I did not see).


  1.  The icons are not shown for menu and in the debugger form.
  2.  When you pass with the mouse on a menu with icons, there is a message in 
console from where you run mseide: "a X11 atom is not recognized".

Maybe both are related.

Sadly I have to take a break in msegui exploration this week, loooot of things 
to do.

I hope you will have luck and that you will find the guilties.
When I am more free, I will jump back into it.

For DragonFly, till now I did not find a solution to make the keyboard work in 
a Xorg session and so did not try yet msegui on DragonFly.

Good luck.

Fre;D


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Fred, your xfce4 shows icons in menus?

On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 5:49 AM Fred van Stappen 
<fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Re-hello Vasi.

Ooops, sorry I did only read your first line, I did not see there was a follow.

About the reboots, I my case, for testing msegui, I needed lot of reboot!

This because at beginning, nothing was working and when finally the compilation 
was ok, running the ide crashed the system.
So boot needed but, because of the "su" bug (that I did not know), I could not 
login after boot and must reinstall all the system.
 And retesting the mseide binary after some change (and using the "su" with 
Xorg console) still crash, so reboot, without working login, --> reinstall the 
os, retest, recrash, reinstall, retest, recrash, ... untill I found the guitly: 
"su" in Xorg console.

Now it is ok, if I have a crash, I can reboot without the need to reinstall all 
because I use "su" in shell-terminal of the system.

Fre;D

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Actually, won't help to create a user as part of wheel group, having admin 
rights and using just sudo or doas? Can'r wait to install it... Last time, I 
did not had such problems... but it was a different computer...

Thanks for the movie, Fred.

On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 1:13 AM Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk 
<mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>>
 wrote:
Hello Fred,

you wrote on Sat, 10 Jun 2023 17:37:44 +0000:

> Note that with NetBSD using the "su" command in a Xorg terminal will
> destroy the pam config (for login+password). And you will not be able to
> login anymore (and must reinstall all the system).

Ihat's a really _very_ bad thing...

> So for all the things you need a root access, terminate the Xorg session
> to come back to terminal-no-gui, login as normal user, then use the "su"
> command to do the things that need root access.

Does NetBSD's Xorg NOT have the LeftAlt-Ctrl-F<n> hot key function to
switch to a text mode console? Or is that just disabled by default, as
many Linux Xorg/Gooey^WGUI installations do it by now, somewhere setting
a "ServerFlags" section 'Option     "DontVTSwitch"        "true"'?

(There's a program, "chvt", that can do the switch too, but that requires
root rights to be used, so it's useless here.)

Creating a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file with just the contents
"Section "ServerFlags"
        Option      "DontVTSwitch"        "true"
 EndSection"
_might_ suffice, but it may neccessary to also include a line like
'       Option      "ServerLayout" "X.org Configured"'
for Xorg to accept it.

Be sure to scan Xorg's log file (Xorg.0.log) whether it had the intended
effect or just rose a warning or an error. Read the Xorg man page!

> Or do this after boot, before to run "startx" command.

You do not want to (re)boot a Unix for maintenance purposes only! Do you?

(Ooops, THAT was looong-winded thread!)

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