Makes sense, thanks Richard. Thank you.
Robert Spinelli | CTS | GTI | 575 Washington Boulevard, Jersey City, NJ, 07310, United States| T: +1.201.595.6820 | C: +1.917.538.6192 | robert.j.spine...@jpmchase.com<mailto:robert.j.spine...@jpmchase.com> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Richard Zuraff Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:43 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [mssms] RE: Add machines to collections - OSD Slow - CAS We do all the variables on the machine, except a few that apply to all machines that are on the collection as a backup. Just in case something happens with the variables on the machine. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Spinelli, Robert J Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:39 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [mssms] RE: Add machines to collections - OSD Slow - CAS So when you move the machine into the imaging collection you have the variables defined on the computer object or the collection? It sounds like you have it on the collection, unless I'm reading it wrong. If you have it defined on the imaging collection, you can't be very granular can you? I found one post that stated in order to make the machine show up in the collections quicker you needed to update the All Systems collection, and then update your collection that you have your machine object in. If you have 225k machines, I don't think it's a great idea to update the All Systems collection randomly throughout the day for every build that is taking place in the environment, as it would increase load on the box. http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/690611ff-b6f7-4d52-b4cc-2022f983c02c/config-manager-2012-slow-updating-collection-membership Thank you. Robert Spinelli | CTS | GTI | 575 Washington Boulevard, Jersey City, NJ, 07310, United States| T: +1.201.595.6820 | C: +1.917.538.6192 | robert.j.spine...@jpmchase.com<mailto:robert.j.spine...@jpmchase.com> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Richard Zuraff Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:19 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [mssms] RE: Add machines to collections - OSD Slow - CAS We are seeing it being much slower without a CAS as well. We have a single Primary and it's much slower for the machine to show up in the collection. 3-5 minutes is what we are seeing versus 1-2 minutes in 2007. What we do is put the machine into a new machine collection and then move the machine after all the variables are done being added to a imaging collection. Our front end looks for the machine in the new collection. If it doesn't find the machine in the new collection it moves forward and starts the imaging process. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:05 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [mssms] RE: Add machines to collections - OSD Slow - CAS It does make sense. I was doing something similar in 2007 and had to re-think things when I moved to 2012. I wasn't able to come up with a true zero touch solution. ________________________________ John Marcum Sr. Desktop Architect Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP ________________________________ From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Spinelli, Robert J Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:51 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [mssms] RE: Add machines to collections - OSD Slow - CAS We're creating the computer object and assign lots of different variables to it for the task sequence, so the user is never prompted for anything. You wouldn't be able to get the same functionality if you used unknown computers is my assumption. No way to assign all the different variables per computer as unknown is really only "one computer" if that makes sense. Thank you. Robert Spinelli | CTS | GTI | 575 Washington Boulevard, Jersey City, NJ, 07310, United States| T: +1.201.595.6820 | C: +1.917.538.6192 | robert.j.spine...@jpmchase.com<mailto:robert.j.spine...@jpmchase.com> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]<mailto:[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]> On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:15 PM To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' Subject: [mssms] RE: Add machines to collections - OSD Slow - CAS use unknown computers. ________________________________ John Marcum Sr. Desktop Architect Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP ________________________________ From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Spinelli, Robert J Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:55 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [mssms] Add machines to collections - OSD Slow - CAS I know this has been discussed before, but can't seem to fine the thread. 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