Thanks Michael! Just one question, these roll-ups for Windows 7, do those go all the way back post-SP1, post April Cumulative Update, or do they start in October and move forward?
Thanks again! On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Todd Hemsell <hems...@gmail.com> wrote: > It would be continual non stop update and reboot for our users. They > complain, a LOT. > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Michael Niehaus < > michael.nieh...@microsoft.com> wrote: > >> From a Windows perspective, we routinely release non-security patches on >> the “other” Tuesdays each month. In the Windows 10 case, since all updates >> are cumulative, the contents of these are rolled into the following Patch >> Tuesday security update, so if you skip “other” Tuesday ones, you’ll still >> get the fixes eventually. For Windows 7, it’s more involved than that, >> even with the proposed changes (hence the desire to simplify things – bring >> an end to the current Windows 7 patching madness J). >> >> >> >> I’m not sure why you decline them if you’re just going to approve them >> later, but the end result will be the same either way. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Michael >> >> >> >> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf >> orum.com] *On Behalf Of *Aday, Karalene B (RCIS) >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:13 PM >> >> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com >> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> Excuse me if I didn’t use the correct terminology. When “additional >> updates” are released it impacts us greatly. We alsways decline them and >> then approve them with all the other monthly patches. There are months >> where there may be a large number released through out the month and it >> impacts our workload and also leave room for error. Why are they released >> during the month and not part of Patch Tuesday? >> >> >> >> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf >> orum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On Behalf Of *Michael Niehaus >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:16 PM >> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com >> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> Just curious, what 52 are you referring to? >> >> >> >> We routinely release additional updates throughout the month. It’s very >> rare to have an out-of-band security update though, those are typically >> only on Patch Tuesday. Flash tends to be the notable exception (we align >> with when Adobe and others release their updates), and of course fixes to >> serious 0-day exploits will always be important. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Michael >> >> >> >> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf >> orum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On Behalf Of *Aday, Karalene >> B (RCIS) >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:01 AM >> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com >> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> I would also like to know how they are going to handle all of the out of >> band updates they release each month. We pulled 52 out of bands last night >> and I’m sure with their pattern that’s not the end of them for this month. >> Patch Tuesday is kind of a joke when they continually do this. >> >> >> >> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf >> orum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *On Behalf Of *Todd Hemsell >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:57 AM >> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com >> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> Less work for them. >> >> Here is the fix, use it or not. Even if it breaks other things. We will >> no longer put in the extra effort to fix our security flaws, instead we >> will put the burden on you to make sure 100% of everything you have is >> compatible with these updates. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Ed Aldrich <ed.aldr...@1e.com> wrote: >> >> How do you see this approach being driven as a profit-making process? >> >> >> >> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf >> orum.com] *On Behalf Of *Todd Hemsell >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:20 PM >> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com >> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> Hey, it makes MS more profitable, that is all that matters,. >> >> >> >> Same with the forced advertising in a corporate OS you pay millions for >> >> Same as with the cloud >> >> Same as with everything >> >> >> >> Screw you, suck it up. lol >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Murray, Mike <mmur...@csuchico.edu> >> wrote: >> >> I’ve been told “get used to it” on the patch management list. Not good >> enough. I think this is ridiculous. >> >> >> >> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf >> orum.com] *On Behalf Of *Roland Janus >> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2016 4:08 PM >> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com >> *Subject:* AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> 1+ >> >> >> >> If they include such updates, like 3170455 which we also excluded, that’s >> certainly going the mess up things.. >> >> >> >> *Von:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf >> orum.com <listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] *Im Auftrag von *Miller, Todd >> *Gesendet:* Montag, 15. August 2016 22:42 >> *An:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com >> *Betreff:* [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a >> disasterous way >> >> >> >> https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/ >> further-simplifying-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/ >> >> >> >> Wow, this could be a disaster. >> >> >> >> We have had 4 or 5 cases in the last 12 months where we have had to delay >> the installation of a security update so that applications could be >> modified to work with updates. In a couple of cases, one ongoing, >> Microsoft has released a security update, then acknowledged a bug in that >> update and released a fix several months later. We currently have >> KB3170455 denied in our environment because it breaks point – and –print >> driver installation. In the new world, I will need to decide which is >> worse – no security updates for 3 months, or break printing for all >> non-admin users. 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