As far as calculating overall downtime (hmmm, five 9s - 99.999 - means about 
six minutes of downtime a year, but the server comes down for half an hour 
once a week to get patched, or about 26 hours a year.  Anything wrong with 
MS advertising at the moment?)

I would present two numbers uptime/(overall time - scheduled outages) and 
uptime/(overall time), both based on service availability.  So, if a service 
is clustered, or in some round robin configuration, and no disruption is 
discernible to the end-user for scheduled or unscheduled downtime - then I 
wouldn't count it.   In the case of services where redundancy allows you to 
upgrade without user interruption, I would present a third number and fourth 
set of numbers based on how often you were running with full redundancy, 
i.e. (Time at Full Redundancy)/(Overall Time - Scheduled Maintenance Time) 
and (Time at Full redundancy)/Overall Time.  I'd put the adjusted numbers up 
front presenting the time used for maintenance with those numbers and bury 
the overall numbers so they're there if someone is looking, but not apparent 
in an executive summary.

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Subject: RE: Maintenance and planned downtime
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:04:09 -0400

or Code Red... Come on , Intel got wacked with it !

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 22:56
To: MSWinNT Discussions
Subject: RE: Maintenance and planned downtime


When it has been planned and announced and I show up and someone says
wait, my response is "sure, ill give you a couple of minutes to shut
down" and that is it.

As for management and in particular with the current state of weekly
patches from MS, downtime is not an option, it is a necessity.
Management may not like it, but they really have no choice. Feel free to
point out the thousands of companies that had to shut down for days
after Nimda to rebuild their network. Besides, this is not really
something management needs to be involved in. Of course they don't like
it, but they have no choice. It is a simple fact of life and everyone
needs to get on board or get wrecked.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chandrasekhar
Varma
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 7:38 PM
To: MSWinNT Discussions
Subject: Maintenance and planned downtime


Hi,

How do you guys rollout packages & fixes that require reboot. We
normally do that in the weekend and send out a mail to the staff giving
them a time frame in which their systems might be rebooted. But many a
times we found people still working and asking us to wait.

We are planning on talking to the management team convincing them to
give us a dedicated a time when we can roll out packages / fixes,
without sending a mail ( we would of course send a net send). Would this
effect the downtime of the site. How do you calculate the site downtime?
If we have to do that what other things can we use to drive across our
point to the mgmt team. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks
Chandrasekhar Varma



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