Hi Thomas, Behcet and all,

please my reply inline:

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Hi Behcet, hi all,

please see inline.

On 31.07.2012 13:31, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:


We did have, apart from
draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast, several other
multicast handover solution drafts such as:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vonhugo-multimob-cxtp-extension-01




This draft basically uses the context transfer protocol (RFC4067) to
carry multicast state between ARs/MAGs. No full handover operations
have been specified. At the unicast side, RFC4067 is a predecessor of
the more advanced Fast Handover Protocols does not apply to unicast
handover management.... IMO it does not make much sense to consider
this rather elementary approach any further.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hui-multimob-fast-handover-04




This draft is - if you want so - a competitor to
draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast, but has never been
worked out (as have several other attempts in the past). If this
document was to be advanced, it had to rewrite (or copy ??) 80 % of
our draft, which is not a proper way to treat authorship.

===>
I aggree draft-hui-multimob-fast-handover-04 is a competitor of
draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast.  Further more,
draft-hui-multimob-fast-handover was written in June 2009 and after
this draft was submitted for more than half a year, other similar
draft was submitted and have a lot common idea of our draft. So I
really do not see why someone say if this document was to be advanced,
it will need to "COPY" 80% of
draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast?

To Behcet:

1. First of all, may I ask why IETF need more than one solution for
one problem?
2. If the group have decided to allow more than one WG draft forthis
problem, I then also request the group to consider
draft-hui-multimob-fast-handover-04 as one basis of WG document.

Regards,
Dapeng Liu

If we decide to accept more than one handover solution then we
probably need to consider all of them for possible WG adoption.




I don't understand your thinking here: it is perfectly normal that
there are competing approaches and the idea of the IETF discussion is
to have the best solution win. From the performance side, and from
protocol systematics (cooperation with unicast),
draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast is clearly the best
solution for fast handover operations - this comparison includes the
adopted draft "fast handover from transient binding".
Cheers,

Thomas

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