1) You only get a crippled phone if you want the operator to chip in. Pay full price on High Street and buy the phone you want. 2) Same is true for cards. Buy your own card and become the issuer. He who pays the piper calls the tune. Cheers, Scott
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Bender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 10/27/2004 6:32 PM To: Peter Tomlinson Cc: MUSCLE Subject: Re: [Muscle] Some javacard questions Peter Tomlinson wrote: > Like you say in your footer, Michael: Never give up! Never surrender! Yeah, but that refers to faster-than-light travel in a spaceship modeled after a TV show and commanded by has-been actors, Peter :-). > If we get multi-app cards into the hands of the citizen, why cannot they > put what they want (within reason) into them? For the same reason that cellular providers like Verizon cripple Motorola bluetooth phones and force the consumer (at least in the US) to only use "approved and verified" phones on the cellular network - $$$. I know that for a number of smartcard-based projects that I am working on that use card provided by other organizations, it sure would be nice to have a few tens or hundreds of bytes of storage that my app could use on the card! > The big battle at the moment is to get card holder authentication using > smart cards sorted out. <CYNIC MODE> Sure, we've only been working on that problem since 1978 or so. </CYNIC MODE> mike -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Bender E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. Tel: 831-401-9510 14 Network Circle Tel: x.31807 Menlo Park, Ca. 94025 Mailstop: UMPK14-260 MD: VPN/IMAP Never give up! Never surrender! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Muscle mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle _______________________________________________ Muscle mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/muscle