Hi,

Here are some answers for the issues you raised:

1. The location of the Muse directory doesn't really matter - since 
everyone has a preference we just assumed not mention it. What *is* 
important is putting /bin on your path so you can invoke the tools from 
anywhere.

2. I will add a 'Note' on section 3 of the tutorial that advises Unix 
users to add a .sh suffix.

3. I will delegate to Andrew on the matter of script format and 
permissions - I also thought this was handled.

4. All Apache projects provide a binary and source distribution - the 
binary is the one that you actually need to work with the project, the 
source is just a convenience for those that want to browse the code. Our 
build process does not even require you to download the source zip file, 
we just provide it because all other projects do and it's easy to create.

Short answer: you normally only need the binary. You can get the source if 
you're curious. If you want to modify some of the source and rebuild, 
follow the instructions here:

        http://ws.apache.org/muse/source-code.html#build-release

5. You need to add the XSD/WSDL files that sample-wsn-producer.wsdl 
imports - these are the WSRF/WSN/WSDM XSDs/WSDLs. This is mentioned in the 
first 'Note' in section 2. However, we should do a better job of linking 
to them in the 2.1 documentation; I will fix this, in the meantime, the 
XSDs/WSDLs are found by clicking 'OASIS Standards' in the menu.

6. The default persistence mechanism is file based and will not write to 
another machine. The interface and abstract class used by the default 
implementation are meant to be reused in situations where you want a 
different form of persistence, such as relational database or (in your 
case) simply copying to another machine. I can help you write the code you 
need, but first I need some answers myself:

        a. Do you want to use a different format from the one used by 
Muse's default implementation? Or are you satisfied with it. The default 
implementation stores EPR reference parameters in the XML files under 
/router-entries.

        b. Are you content with storing separate files on disk, or do you 
have a more robust persistence mechanism in mind? How many resource 
instances will there be? If the number is large, we won't be able to use 
files because of performance issues, and this will significantly affect 
how much code we can reuse from Muse today.


thanks,
Dan



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/15/2006 06:27:35 AM:

> Hi,
> 
> In the process of started to get acquainted with muse 2.0, I stumbled 
> upon a few issues and questions.
> 
> I downloaded the binary distribution, however I found the installation 
> page http://ws.apache.org/muse/docs/2.0.0/tutorial/01-install-muse.html 
> quite  some short on the subject of installation. It does not gives a 
> suggestion where to place the unpacked directory (I placed it in 
> /usr/local/muse ) or if there need to be a PATH or other environment 
> variable set (it does however suggest the ./bin directory to be 
> included, so that is OK :P ).
> 
> Furthermore, the shell scripts are not ready executable and have a 
> suffix (which makes them incompatible with the tutorial command line 
> http://ws.apache.org/muse/docs/2.0.0/tutorial/03-wsdl2java.html ).
> 
> Furthermore, the shell scripts are still in binary format, even tough I 
> found the subject already covered on the mailing list: 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=muse-user&m=115892779030401&w=2 .
> 
> The installation page does also not state for what purpose one should 
> use the binary and for what purpose one should use the source 
> distribution (so I picked binary, but maybe source would be a better 
> option, I don't know...).
> 
> I was also doing the tutorial and on this page 
> http://ws.apache.org/muse/docs/2.0.0/tutorial/03-wsdl2java.html I came 
> into problems while (automatically) installing axis:
> wsdl2java -wsdl 
> /home/bertrand/Thesis/codebase/muse_test/sample-wsn-producer.wsdl
> 
> SEVERE: [ID = 'FailedLoadingWSDL'] Got exception loading WSDL: [ID = 
> 'InvalidFile'] The file specified does not exist: 
> /home/bertrand/Thesis/codebase/muse_test/WS-Addressing-2005_08.xsd. 
> Remember that the location of the file is relative to the application's 
> working directory..
> 
> An exception was caught: [ID = 'FailedLoadingWSDL'] Got exception 
> loading WSDL: [ID = 'InvalidFile'] The file specified does not exist: 
> /home/bertrand/Thesis/codebase/muse_test/WS-Addressing-2005_08.xsd. 
> Remember that the location of the file is relative to the application's 
> working directory..
> 
> So can somebody give some advice on this? Should there be a PATH set or 
> something?
> 
> Final question, on the "Features" page it is stated that muse 2.0 
> contains "A persistence API so that users can recover the state of a 
> WS-resource after shutdown of the host." Can this also be used to copy 
> the state an application using the WSRF to an other (secondary) machine? 

> Can this be done runtime? Because I am looking for such functionality. 
> If so, could somebody please point to documentation and/or examples how 
> to start with this?
> 
> I hope I don't sound to negative, because I really appreciate all the 
> work being done by the Muse team!
> 
> Best regards,
>     Bertrand
> 
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