Hi all, Dan,

Thank you for your comments. After your tips I started again on the tutorial, but found some small issues: * On this page: http://ws.apache.org/muse/docs/2.0.0/tutorial/06-custom-capabilities.html I followed the instructions and afterwards run the ant tool, however it gave some errors. I looked at the sample file in sample/wsn-producer/src/org/apache/ws/muse/test/wsrf/MyCapabilityImpl.java and there I saw that there were some imports I did not have and there was a declaration I did not have:
import org.apache.muse.ws.addressing.soap.SoapFault;
import org.apache.muse.ws.notification.NotificationProducer;
import org.apache.muse.ws.notification.WsnConstants;
import org.apache.muse.util.xml.XmlUtils;
import org.w3c.dom.Element;
private static final QName _TOPIC_NAME = new QName(NAMESPACE_URI, "MyTopic", PREFIX);

Should these imports normally be done automatically? Maybe I skipped a step or something? It might be cool to know from the start of the tutorial that there is a sample directory where the files of this tutorial can all be found back (they might even include the XSD and WSDL files...) so you can compare your own work with how it should look.

* I found that my muse.xml file contained entries like this:
<desc:capability xmlns:desc="http://ws.apache.org/muse/descriptor";>
<desc:capability-uri>http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/rlw-2/ImmediateResourceTermination</desc:capability-uri> <desc:java-capability-class>org.apache.muse.ws.resource.lifetime.impl.SimpleImmediateTermination</desc:java-capability-class> </desc:capability>

Where the one of the sample contains:
<capability>
<capability-uri>http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsrf/rlw-2/ImmediateResourceTermination</capability-uri> <java-capability-class>org.apache.muse.ws.resource.lifetime.impl.SimpleImmediateTermination</java-capability-class>
</capability>

Why is this, I would have expected them to be some sort of the same format since they were made with the same tool?

* Section: http://ws.apache.org/muse/docs/2.0.0/tutorial/03-wsdl2java.html#Section4 (about the proxy code generation) States "New OSGi generated project layout", but isn't this true for Axis as well or is this really OSGi specific?

* In section: http://ws.apache.org/muse/docs/2.0.0/tutorial/08-test-client.html Why not provide the entire source code of a client, allowing people to just fast test/extend some things? I mean, I've done some Java in the past (like a year ago) and figure it out finally, however within a tutorial one just wants to test/see functionality of the presented technology and not have to care about those minor things.

* In that same section of the test client, it is said to replace http://... with your personal URL. However the sample code contains two instances, one for creating "uri" and one for creating "consumerURI". Should they both be replaced? But if they are both the same, why not just use one URI instance? If they are different, maybe explain why.

* One more about the sample file, I seem not to get the importing of the EndpointReference right..... Which file should be in its classpath and how is it imported, because it seems I'm not able to manage it right. Now using "import org.apache.ws.addressing.EndpointReference;" with wsrf-1.1.jar in its classpath, but probably need an other one since muse 2.0 came with wsrf 1.2. In one of your sample files (samples/simple/src/org/apache/muse/test/simple/SimpleResourceClient.java) you used "import org.apache.muse.ws.addressing.EndpointReference;" however again, what place needs to be in my classpath to import this one?

* About your questions Dan:
A: I will come back to you at this, basically I think XML files will do just fine for me. B: Files on a (virtual) filesystem are fine. The number of copies needed to be distributed are in the range of 3-10. For larger distribution a P2P like technologies *might* be useful in my case, but initially not needed.

Best regards,
   Bertrand


Daniel Jemiolo wrote:
Hi,

Here are some answers for the issues you raised:

1. The location of the Muse directory doesn't really matter - since everyone has a preference we just assumed not mention it. What *is* important is putting /bin on your path so you can invoke the tools from anywhere.

2. I will add a 'Note' on section 3 of the tutorial that advises Unix users to add a .sh suffix.

3. I will delegate to Andrew on the matter of script format and permissions - I also thought this was handled.

4. All Apache projects provide a binary and source distribution - the binary is the one that you actually need to work with the project, the source is just a convenience for those that want to browse the code. Our build process does not even require you to download the source zip file, we just provide it because all other projects do and it's easy to create.

Short answer: you normally only need the binary. You can get the source if you're curious. If you want to modify some of the source and rebuild, follow the instructions here:

        http://ws.apache.org/muse/source-code.html#build-release

5. You need to add the XSD/WSDL files that sample-wsn-producer.wsdl imports - these are the WSRF/WSN/WSDM XSDs/WSDLs. This is mentioned in the first 'Note' in section 2. However, we should do a better job of linking to them in the 2.1 documentation; I will fix this, in the meantime, the XSDs/WSDLs are found by clicking 'OASIS Standards' in the menu.

6. The default persistence mechanism is file based and will not write to another machine. The interface and abstract class used by the default implementation are meant to be reused in situations where you want a different form of persistence, such as relational database or (in your case) simply copying to another machine. I can help you write the code you need, but first I need some answers myself:

a. Do you want to use a different format from the one used by Muse's default implementation? Or are you satisfied with it. The default implementation stores EPR reference parameters in the XML files under /router-entries.

b. Are you content with storing separate files on disk, or do you have a more robust persistence mechanism in mind? How many resource instances will there be? If the number is large, we won't be able to use files because of performance issues, and this will significantly affect how much code we can reuse from Muse today.


thanks,
Dan



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/15/2006 06:27:35 AM:

Hi,

In the process of started to get acquainted with muse 2.0, I stumbled upon a few issues and questions.

I downloaded the binary distribution, however I found the installation page http://ws.apache.org/muse/docs/2.0.0/tutorial/01-install-muse.html quite some short on the subject of installation. It does not gives a suggestion where to place the unpacked directory (I placed it in /usr/local/muse ) or if there need to be a PATH or other environment variable set (it does however suggest the ./bin directory to be included, so that is OK :P ).

Furthermore, the shell scripts are not ready executable and have a suffix (which makes them incompatible with the tutorial command line http://ws.apache.org/muse/docs/2.0.0/tutorial/03-wsdl2java.html ).

Furthermore, the shell scripts are still in binary format, even tough I found the subject already covered on the mailing list: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=muse-user&m=115892779030401&w=2 .

The installation page does also not state for what purpose one should use the binary and for what purpose one should use the source distribution (so I picked binary, but maybe source would be a better option, I don't know...).

I was also doing the tutorial and on this page http://ws.apache.org/muse/docs/2.0.0/tutorial/03-wsdl2java.html I came into problems while (automatically) installing axis: wsdl2java -wsdl /home/bertrand/Thesis/codebase/muse_test/sample-wsn-producer.wsdl

SEVERE: [ID = 'FailedLoadingWSDL'] Got exception loading WSDL: [ID = 'InvalidFile'] The file specified does not exist: /home/bertrand/Thesis/codebase/muse_test/WS-Addressing-2005_08.xsd. Remember that the location of the file is relative to the application's working directory..

An exception was caught: [ID = 'FailedLoadingWSDL'] Got exception loading WSDL: [ID = 'InvalidFile'] The file specified does not exist: /home/bertrand/Thesis/codebase/muse_test/WS-Addressing-2005_08.xsd. Remember that the location of the file is relative to the application's working directory..

So can somebody give some advice on this? Should there be a PATH set or something?

Final question, on the "Features" page it is stated that muse 2.0 contains "A persistence API so that users can recover the state of a WS-resource after shutdown of the host." Can this also be used to copy the state an application using the WSRF to an other (secondary) machine?

Can this be done runtime? Because I am looking for such functionality. If so, could somebody please point to documentation and/or examples how to start with this?

I hope I don't sound to negative, because I really appreciate all the work being done by the Muse team!

Best regards,
    Bertrand

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