On 1/23/07, Balan Subramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Andrey,
Thank you for your interest in the WSDM tooling and using the Managed
Resources Explorer to look at WSDM resources like the ones generated using
Apache Muse. As Andrew pointed out, the Managed Agent Explorer (MAX) is in
development and any bugs and features you find, I'd request that you bring
them to our notice through the Eclipse bugzilla. A number of features you
are interested in are already in the works for the TPTP 4.4 release in
June (to coincide with the Eclipse Europa release). For a list of
features/bugs we are currently working on:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=TPTP%204.4%20features%20for%20WSDM%20Tooling
(Features)
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=TPTP%204.4%20bugs%20for%20WSDM%20Tooling
(bugs)
See the bottom of this note for instructions.
Also it would be very helpful if we can continue this discussion on the
TPTP mailing lists, instructions to which are attached below as well.
Now about management applications interacting with WSDM resources, I am
aware of a number of IBM products that are getting ready on that front.
The first that I am aware of is the recently announced WSDM Collector
Agent for IBM Tivoli Monitoring:
Thank you very much! I'll try to look at this.
Please go to http://catalog.lotus.com/wps/portal/topal/ and search for
WSDM. The first link leads to the above page.
Out of the box, the WSDM Generic Collector Engine can monitor the
WebSphere Application Server using the WSDM capability that was delivered
in WAS 6.1 Web Services Feature Pack beta (
https://www14.software.ibm.com/iwm/web/cc/earlyprograms/websphere/wsvwas61/
). Through minor configuration, the engine can collect specified resource
state from any WSDM enabled resource. Any resource that you can enable for
WSDM (using the Eclipse TPTP tooling for WSDM for example) can be
monitored by ITM.
If you are interested in the ITM capability for WSDM please send me a note
and I'll get you in contact with the right people to help setup that.
I had posted this earlier but here can't find a link to the archives so
here are the instructions:
Please open bugs and enhancement requests on the Eclipse WSDM tooling at
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs
Choose Report a new bug or Enter an enhancement/feature request
accordingly.
You will need to create a bugzilla ID (simple process) at
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/createaccount.cgi
The Eclipse project in which the WSDM tooling currently resides is TPTP
(Test and Performance Tools). So choose that in the list of projects next.
Finally for version choose 4.3 (if you are using the release build) or 4.4
(if you are using the development build).
For component please choose Monitor.UI.ManagedResourcesExplorer.
You can also ask tooling related questions at the TPTP user's mailing
list:
http://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/tptp-monitoring-tools-dev
We are currently developing WSDM tooling that will part of the main GA
stream in TPTP 4.4, so your comments, feature suggestions and bug reports
would be most helpful.
OK, let me see if I could file some more specific bug descriptions.
Thanks,
Andrey.
Balan Subramanian
WSDM Development Lead
Autonomic Computing, IBM, RTP, NC
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"Andrey Chernyshev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
01/23/2007 11:14 AM
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Re: What works with WSDM resources?
On 1/23/07, Andrew Eberbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The BtM Explorer and Muse have gone out of sync in version. We're
working
> on getting the Explorer caught up and polished for the next release of
> TPTP. What kind of functionality are you looking for? Have you tried
the
Thanks for the prompt reply! Let's assume it is a simple resource that
has startup/shutdown operations and a set of tunable properties, very
similar to the httpd example bundled with the Muse. May be I would
wish to add some advertisement capabilities as well. I wonder if there
could be a tool which can, at least, read/write to these properties
and call start/shutdown.
> proxy generation that we have in the command-line tooling?
Yes, I also tried the client code which is generated by wsdl2java tool
(I found that taking that code is pretty much equivalent to taking and
modifying the examples bundled with the Muse). My client extends
WsResourceClient and it works pretty well with the resource.
Actually, I'm more interested to know at this point what else except
my client will be able to talk to my app. I think I also can do a
simpler communication between client and managed resource with help of
RMI or JAX-WS or whatever. But, if the management interface is a
standard WSDM one, I assume there must be variety of apps capable of
managing it, right?
Thanks,
Andrey.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Eberbach
> Autonomic Computing
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> "Andrey Chernyshev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 01/23/2007 10:01 AM
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> What works with WSDM resources?
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> Hello,
>
> I've been playing a little with Muse with the intent to add WSDM-style
> management capabilities to my application. But, so far I was able to
> talk to my resource only from the client that I wrote myself. I also
> tried Managed Agent Explorer from Eclipse BtM package (TPTP 4.3) to
> browse my WSDM resource (I also tried that for wsrf example from Muse
> running under Tomcat), but it was able to show only properties,
> operations and their types, it didn't show the property values
> correctly. An attempt to call operations just resulted in nothing. Was
> it a problem with my installation or the tool is just not yet
> complete?
>
> Is there any more or less mature management tool available today which
> is capable of working with WSDM resources?
> If I add WSDM-style management interface, what will likely be the
> software talking to my application?
> May be someone could just give me a good advice which management
> toolkits I can use to check the manageability of my app...
>
> Thanks!
> Andrey.
>
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