To add to what Lenni said: yes, you need a web service to receive 
notifications that are sent over HTTP/SOAP; however, there's no reason 
that consumer service has to be large. If you use the OSGi/Mini SOAP 
engine option when building services with wsdl2java, you will get an 
application that can run on J2ME/J2SE and is quite small. If you're a 
J2EE-only guy, you can use embedded Tomcat (5-6 MB last time I checked) 
and use the J2EE/Mini option to create a WAR that will only add another 
1.5 MB. The OSGi option might be better if you plan to incorporate the 
consumer into some kind of rich client - OSGi will allow you to load your 
Muse-based applications and your other client code in the same JVM. We 
have done this in the past to create resource/message browsers in Eclipse.

Dan



<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/08/2007 09:18:29 AM:

> Hi Steve
> 
> I'll do my best to make it a bit more clear as it seems to be a common
> question about WSN.
> 
> 1) Both your Client and service needs to be run as web services. A
> simplified example can be found in the downloadable binary distribution
> of Muse from http://ws.apache.org/muse/download.html, the examples are
> as follows: client <-> Wsn-comsumer, service <-> Wsn-producer
> These should work out of the box.
> 
> /Lenni
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 08 March 2007 13:25
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: New to MUSE and WSN
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to understand Muse, and wsn-notification.  Can someone please
> answer a couple of questions me?
> 
> 1) With Muse using wsn, can I have a web service that resides on a
> server and a standalone client(java or c)  that resides on some other
> machine that will receive the notifications via a request to subscribe
> to that web service?  Does the client need to be setup with a web
> service also?  I'm a little confused.  If this is possible, is there any
> place I can go to get an example.  I've been going through the Muse
> tutorial, but I haven't figured out if it actually shows me how to do
> this.  Where is the callback on the standalone client side to receive
> the notifications?
> 
> 2) Is there a good spot that someone can point me that has some sort of
> architecture diagram of how this could/would be setup?
> 
> Thank you very much in advance for any help.....
> 
> steve
> 
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