I'm in, but is there a IRC channel you all hang out in? I join #fedora-audio but there's not much going on there it seems, but maybe I'm just on at the wrong times.
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Brendan Jones <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi all, > > Traditionally Fedora has been known to walk the bleeding edge in free and > open source software development but for some reason this has never been > realised in the realms of pro-audio/music creation. > > Fedora has never really attracted the support of the audio development > community, and as a direct result has only flagging support from audio > users, enthusiasts and professionals alike. > > I think there are a number of reasons for this: > 1) Strict packaging and licensing guidelines, > 2) relatively short release support cycles > 3) the absence of an stock RT kernel > 4) the effort required to tailor an installation for audio use > > Distributions like Debian/Ubuntu/Arch (and others like AVLinux) have > garnered strong support because they in some way address all of these > issues. Fedora however... > > 1) and 2) we can't change. In fact at the end of the day these strengthen > the distribution by making the packages we ship more robust and closer to > upstream. It also demands a certain amount of love to ensure that > updates/ABI bumps/breakages are dealt with decisively and swiftly. It also > means that audio developers are more unlikely to maintain their own > packages in Fedora (we need more maintainers) > > 3) I can't see happening any time soon. The kernel team maintain so many > out of tree patches already that I don't think they really have the time > nor desire to maintain the realtime kernel as well. I don't see this as a > problem - recent kernels have incorporated much of the the rt kernel > patches of old and should satisfy most users. For those with more stringent > requirements can rely on the CCRMA patched kernels > > 4) is where I think an audio spin comes into play. If we can > collate/automate all of the steps involved in setting up Fedora for audio > production we will attract both users and maintainers alike alleviating the > problems caused by 1 and 2. > > I'm proposing to formally revive the past Fedora Audio Spin / Music > Creation efforts of a couple of years ago in time for an F18 Audio spin > release. This means we have one whole release cycle to get all of the > packages we require into stable so they can be available for Live composes > for the F18 release cycle. > > Apart from packaging efforts, the last few weeks for me has been an > information gathering exercise. More on this soon, but briefly, the current > to do list is: > - pulling in all of the must have packages from CCRMA > - determining the package list > - packaging the Fedora Musician's guide > - repackaging/patching rpmfusion packages for Fedora (qtractor and > others if required) > - developing sane RT priorities for the stock kernels (threadirqs) > - consensus on distribution media, default desktop/supported desktops > - default systemd enabled services > - themes and artwork > - resubmit the Spin proposal for F18 > > If you want to contribute, here's how: > - become a contributor/get a FAS account [1] and join the > music-creation group > - help maintain the audio creation wiki's (formalize the to do > list)[2][3] - this is really out of date. Many packages have been > orphaned or are already in Fedora. Needs to be brought in line > with the package database [5]. I'm not convinced that this page > really needs to be so detailed. Wish lsit is probably the most > important > - register your interest in the contributor section of the audio > spin wiki [3] > - help test new packages - I will be listing all upcoming changes on > this list and I encourage other package maintainers to do the same > [3] > - become a tester or packager of audio packages [4][5] > - help test the new spins as we make them available. > - join Chris in his documentation efforts [7] > - volunteer desktop artwork > - and most importantly, voice your opinion on how this project > should be realized! Choice of media/desktop/applications > /configuration etc. More proposals on this coming soon. > > Packaging the software and building the media constitutes less than a > quarter of the effort required here. What we need most is strong community > support so please respond to this email if you are interested! > > Lets do it > > Brendan > > [1] > https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/accounts/<https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/> > [2] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Audio_Creation<http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_Creation> > [3] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**AudioCreationSpinDevelopment<http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AudioCreationSpinDevelopment> > [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**QA <http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA> > [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Join_the_package_collection_** > maintainers<http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers> > [6] > https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/pkgdb/<https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/> > [7] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/**en-US/Fedora/15/html/** > Musicians_Guide/index.html<http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Musicians_Guide/index.html> > ______________________________**_________________ > music mailing list > [email protected] > https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/music<https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music>
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