Hi, Currently Ardour is fine and most programs are. It is nice to be able to play sound from Ardour (Jack/Pipewire) and from the browser (PA/Pipewire) without having to tweak the configuration.
Musescore still crashes instantly when configured to use Jack. I have to configure it to use Alsa or PA. So I cannot have the Jack transport synchro between Ardour and MuseScore. Not that Musescore ever had a lot of Linux users, so I guess it will take time until it plays nice with Jack/Pipewire. The Pipewire configuration is still a little confusing to me, seems like there are a lot of possibilities, but examples, uses cases would be helpful. I expect we will start to see more of them from the community, as its usage expands. Bruno On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 8:16 PM Christian Fredrik Schaller <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Keith, > First of all thanks for the detailed feedback, more inline: > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 1:21 PM Keith Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Christian, >> >> I've been exclusively using pipewire and been happy with it. It has >> provided me with low latency and seems to identify all of my hardware >> correctly. Using Carla, I'm able to re-wire my audio to fit my current >> workflow. There have been some issues: >> >> - When freewheeling wasn't implemented I was shutdown from rendering in >> Ardour for a couple of weeks. That's now fixed >> >> -Ardour seemed to be unstable with pipewire. That's from both my experience >> and what I've read on various forums. > > You say seemed (as in the past), but I get the understanding here that this > is still the case for you right? >> >> -While App developers tend to try to be helpful, there's not a wide >> acceptance of pipewire yet. A common response is to go back to Jack, or >> switch to alsa. I've come across several individuals in forums who advocate >> to everyone to avoid pipewire and stick with jack. > > Yeah, that is always going to be a challenge, hopefully as PipeWire gets > wider adoption and further improves the resistance will fall away. >> >> -I switched to Reaper, but Reaper fails to reconnect everything in pipewire. >> This is annoying as every time I restart Reaper, or render in Reaper I have >> to go into Carla and reconnect my sources and sinks. > > I have no experience with this, but can I assume that what you are saying is > that Reaper do reconnect everything if you use Jack? Or is it just that > Reaper in compared to Ardour doesn't reconnect everything? >> >> -Reaper has no way to set pipewire buffer size and I couldn't get jackCtl to >> work to control it. Apparently this works with Jack? My work around is to >> define the environmental variable to set pipewire buffer when evoking Reaper >> from the command line, > > Does the workaround from Wim in comment 9 fix this issue for you? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1949421 >> >> -Gucview no longer saves audio under pipewire during video recording and >> there seems to be no progress, or even acknowledgement of where the problem >> lies. > > Ok, something that needs to debugged further >> >> -I customized alsa-monitoring to rename my audio interface and its ports, >> but upon updating pipewire all the customization was overwritten. The >> update did back-up the original file, however having to re-do the >> customization every time pipewire updates is annoying > > Ok, also worth looking into what we can do. >> >> -Finally, I wish there was a set of good quality GUI utilities specifically >> for pipewire available from Fedora repository. I believe such utilities >> would go a long way in giving the impression that pipewire is polished and a >> worthy replacement for Jack and pulseaudio. > > Agreed, it is an area where I hope the community will step up and help though > as Wim got limited time and thus things like these ends up getting pushed > down his priority list. >> >> >> I hope this helps, > > It is very helpful, thank you. >> >> >> On 7/1/21 6:06 AM, Christian Fredrik Schaller wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> So we have been shipping PipeWire for a bit now and Wim has of course been >> pushing out regular updates with bugfixes and enhancements. So I am not a >> pro-audio user myself so I wanted to ask how things are going, is PipeWire >> usable as a daily driver for ProAudio folks now or do you find yourself >> reverting to Jack ? >> >> Christian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> music mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] >> Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure >> >> _______________________________________________ >> music mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] >> Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > > _______________________________________________ > music mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure -- Bruno VERNAY _______________________________________________ music mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
