i liked this email! Orion wrote: > Alright, then picture this situation: I take a live DVD I purchased, > place it in my DVD drive, hit play, and minimize the player. I continue > working on my computer and would like to look up the info on a > particular track quickly. The case doesn't have a tracklisting on it > and I don't want to stop the music to go view the tracklisting in the > menu, so I open a new tab and browse to the artist's page on MB to find > the information quickly. I would expect to find that information listed > under the official section, and not as a bootleg. To me it doesn't > matter whether or not someone else may have ripped the audio to their > hard drive and whether or not that may be considered a bootlegging > activity; I am listening to the official disc directly and would be > confused to see it not listed as official. > > ---
that sounds to me something i'd expect out of "MovieBrainz", not MusicBrainz. If it were in MusicBrainz i'd expect it to be listed live/bootleg. i don't know why. I feel the date and city is more important information i guess. That information should be there. what about an option to give live releases 2 titles? one with the live/bootleg style and one with any possible DVD title or even bootleg title? be able to select one of the two when tagging. hell maybe all releases could use an alternate title field.. > > I would say that the majority seem to feel that the process of ripping a > DVD disc to audio files is not an act of bootlegging, but given that > there are other usage cases for the data such as the one I gave above I > would also argue that it is not necessary a relevant discussion to the > topic of DVD release status as a whole. Yes, it'll still have to be > decided for the case when people want to add information about a rip > where the actual chapters do not directly line up with the official > tracklist. For the cases where people just want to add the official > tracklist plus some sort of DVDID like Steve suggested then it doesn't > seem relevant to me. > > Brian Gurtler wrote: >> i'm talking about seperating audio from video, not ripping CDs. >> >> Cristov Russell wrote: >>> No. Following that logic, every ripped format (mp3, wav, flac, aac, >>> mp4, ogg, etc.) that was not released via an artist or their label is >>> a Bootleg. The original media source should be the determinate of >>> what is Official or Bootleg. >>> >>> Cristov (wolfsong) >>> >>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> From: Brian Gurtler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: MusicBrainz style discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Cc: >>> Subject: Re: [mb-style] WTF DVD? (was: Veto - DVD in album titles) >>> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:06:30 -0400 >>> >>> Beth wrote: >>>> My thoughts... >>>> Q1. Which DVDs to add? >>>> A1. All DVD musical rips. >>>> Arguments: it was argued MB was a music database. Music >>>> DVD's are based on music and bands. That in itself seems to be a >>>> good reason >>>> to add them. If MB is supposed to be an archive of band's music at >>>> least.) >>> once you separate the video from the audio you are left with a homemade >>> audio release which isn't any different than a bootleg. >>> if it was official audio, there would be an official audio release of >>> the same audio put out by the band. >>> >>> example.. the Dave Matthews Band Live in Central Park CDs and DVDs are >>> official. if i took the audio from the DVD to make a CD.. whats official >>> about that? nothing. >>> it's an act unsanctioned by the band. >>> >>> If there was no audio release of a DVD put out by a band, than you have >>> to create the audio yourself. That audio is a bootleg. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Musicbrainz-style mailing list >> Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org >> http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Musicbrainz-style mailing list > Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style > _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
