I think Don's summary of the DVD issues is pretty close to what we
should go with.
<official_sounding_voice>
1. We will store DVDs in MusicBrainz and we'll start doing this by
using the existing album structure.
2. We will not use DVD in the title.
3. We can start adding DVDs into MusicBrainz. Once we get a few
(more) into the database, we will see how people have been adding
them and only then start creating "official" guidelines for how DVDs
will be entered. As usual, we will attempt to keep the rules as
simple as possible. I would like to ask the Style Secretary to pick
the right point in time to establish the rules and to get the ball
rolling at that time.
4. DVDs in MusicBrainz will represent releases that you can buy.
Official DVD releases will also be considered official for MB. We'll
have to consider how to improve support for DVDs in MB when we
improve the handling for albums. We'll make do for now.
5. If for some reason the track listing that people have for a DVD is
different from the actual DVD, create a second album and mark the
second album as a bootleg. Figuring out when and when not to do this
will be part of establishing the DVD style guidelines -- first lets
observe what people are doing and then we'll nail down the guidelines.
</official_sounding_voice>
All of this is going to take some time -- as usual. If some time down
the road you think that the DVD guidelines have mature, please
mention it here and we'll see about updating the official style
guidelines.
Thanks, and have a good weekend everyone!
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:39 AM, Don Redman wrote:
Wow, I liked this response (and I had not thought it could come out
of that silly speaker thread).
so let's keep up summarizing:
(1) MB is currently not able to genuinely store metadata in a
format that will apply to all DVDs
However, the current album-oriented way of storing metadata is
applicable to a majority of DVDs.
This is what StyleGuidelines are for. Therefore DVDs could be added
to MusicBrainz using relatively complex guidelines. But if the pro-
DVD people are willing to work these guidelines out and to watch
that they are being applied, that is ok.
- The guidelines could specify that stuff above a certain level of
complexity belongs to the annotation.
- The guidelines coud outline a threshold of 'musical relatedness'
under which DVDs should not be added to MB
- etc.
(2) DVDs have a non negligeable role in musical culture. They are
probably going to become even more important. Can MusicBrainz
afford to ignore this phenomenon? I do not think so.
(3) Are DVD entries _in the MB database_ 'official'? This depends
on the definition of what a "DVD" is _in MB_. Some define it as an
entry representing an audio rip. Then it makes sense to set the
status to 'bootleg'. Othes seem to define it as an etry
representing the whole DVD. Then normal album rules should apply.
Idea: Is it possinble to expand the current AlbumAttributes
(without changing their structure or interface, just adding
entries) to contain some DVD-specific attributes?
Question: How much work is the rewrite of the AlbumAttributes which
is documented in the wiki, and how far up on the list can it move?
When could it be done, and could expanding the current set be a
viable _intermediary_ solution?
--
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Robert Kaye -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mayhem-chaos.net
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