2010/4/4 SwissChris <swissch...@gmail.com> > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria > <davito...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> 2010/4/4 Brian Schweitzer <brian.brianschweit...@gmail.com> >> >>> Just a minor nit, but... >>> >>> >>> > A work has 0 to n composers, >>> >>> Doesn't a work have to have at least one composer, even if that composer >>> is unknown, or 'traditional'? >>> >> >> Yes, of course. No musical work could appear spontaneously (although I am >> sure someone must have suggested it can happen :-) ) >> >> >> > I don't see any reason to give the name Artist to any of these any more >>> than to any other. Either they are all artists, or none are. >>> >>> The above, re composer, is partially why I'd lay the 'artist' title on >>> the composer. The other half of the reasoning is that all the other people >>> add to an existing work, either writing >>> lyrics/libretto/arrangements/orchestrations/etc of it or >>> performing/remixing/sampling/etc it. The composer on the other hand, >>> originates it, which does make the composer the primary artist, however many >>> artists that 'artist' may actually consist of. >>> >> >> Often right, but among my examples, I believe Don Giovanni's libretto was >> written first, and I am sure Prévert wrote the poems long before Reggiani >> even thought about recording them. And when Schubert composed some lieder on >> Goethe poems, do you seriously suggest Schubert is The Artist and Goethe >> only an artist? > > > You're certainly right on an abstract point of view. But we're talking > about MusicBrainz, not Lyrics-, Libretto- or Poetry-Brainz. And in practice > none of your examples above would be filed under Da Ponte, Prévert, Colette > or Goethe in a library or a record shop. > > Chris > >> >> You are right for a release in a record shop. But here we are not discussing releases, we are discussing works, which are much more abstract concepts. I am not yet convinced we should apply the same classification to works as to releases. And also, I am not sure the record shop paradigm is a good one. It worked, because we were used to it, but it was only a commercial analogy. If we use only ARs, nothing prevents users who want to stick to this analogy to continue. But using ARs, we allow those who want to take a broader point of view to do so.
-- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org
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