Hello,

On 17/05/12 17:28, Alex Mauer wrote:
> On 05/17/2012 09:44 AM, Kuno Woudt wrote:
>> AFAIK we also keep mono and stereo mixes separate (e.g. the Beatles),
>> this is a similar situation.
>
> But isn’t that more because a lot of stereo mixes are actually
> substantially different and not just a simple stereo→mono mixdown?

Even a simple stereo->mono mixdown will considerably change the 
experience unless the original stereo recording is already (mostly) 
identical on both channels.

I'm not saying that a different number of channels in itself warrants a 
new recording, but that in the vast majority of cases having one or more 
extra channels will have an impact on the experience for the listener -- 
as such, listeners will have a need to keep these versions separate and 
thus obviously a need to have separate musicbrainz identifiers for them.

I can imagine the three channel release which started this discussion be 
released on a two-channel medium as a Dolby Surround mix.  So, on disc 
there would only be two channels, but with the correct decoder you get a 
three channel version equivalent to the three channel SACD release.  The 
experience between those two versions would be largely the same for a 
listener, and thus there is no need to keep these two versions separate 
in a collection, so it would be OK for such a hypothetical dolby cd to 
share the recording identifiers with the SACD release.

Obviously to what extent there is value in keeping very similar 
recordings separate in the database depends on how important these 
subtle differences are to you as a listener or collector.  I personally 
would be considerably annoyed if I have different versions of recordings 
in my collection which musicbrainz cannot distinguish.  So, I think it's 
OK for us to merge recordings which everyone considers identical -- but 
once someone shows up with a clear description why a particular 
recording should be separate, we should accept that.

-- kuno / warp.

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