Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:40:55 +0100

From: Reinhard Katzmann 
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Subject: Re: Win-Linux PMX text file transfers

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Hi Don!


On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 12:09:36PM -0800, Don Simons wrote:

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<underline><color><param>0000,8000,0000</param>I've been experimenting with my latest 
PMX di</underline><color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>stribution from

> http://www.dslnorthwest.net/~don/pmx/pmx.html .  It was created and


> sample .pmx files, Linux-PMX had all sorts of problems related to text

> line terminations.  If on the other hand I retrieve the same .pmx files

> by ascii-mode FTP from a Win/DOS box, there are no such problems.  


</color>Yes, the same happened to me as I first checked out pmx on a linux box

(pmxing the example files).


<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> I suppose the CR-LF's are somehow surviving the 
DOS-ZIP/Linux-unzip

> process, then confusing the Linux-compiled PMX.


</color>Yes, all the files inside an archive are binary, this would not make

a sense otherwise.


<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> I wonder why the Linux compilers (g77 and also 
lf95) did not suffer the

> same confusion that PMX did regarding the ends of lines.


</color>Not necessarily. gcc exists for Win*/Dos* as well, so maybe the treatment

is already included. I suppose it simply ignores the extra carriage return

(^M) character.


<color><param>7F00,0000,0000</param>> I can imagine that this behavior would irritate 
people who only work in

> Linux, but I can't really recall anyone complaining in the past, and I

> really don't relish changing PMX to try to compensate for it.  Any

> thoughts, discussion, suggestions?


</color>Well, I simply transformed you pmx-files with dos2unix, see the rpm spec

file included with the rpm archive. Also there are some standards concerning

this. Since Win95, the ISO -8859-1 Format is supported (newer versions 
should

use ISO-8859-15 (Euro) format, but the main problem is, that at least the

notepad editor only works with the DOS Ascii format :-( 

Wordpad and others have no problem with the normal Format, but I don't 
know

what is the default Ascii format of Wordpad (maybe one can choose).

So the only useful solution: No support for DOS Ascii. I'm quite sure it will

vanish in the next years. (Hint: take a look at the file format of this mail)


Best regards,


Reinhard Katzmann

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