On 2012-08-05 18:03:59 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 08:41:28PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2012-08-05 11:04:03 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > > That is why people use Mutt... NOT so that they can learn about > > > obscure networking protocols. All they need to know > > > is how to configure their e-mail client to talk to their ISP's mail > > > gateway. > > > > But when the ISP's mail gateway is down or is blacklisted because of > > spammers, the users wouldn't know what to do. > > Of course they do. Call their ISP and complain to them to get it > fixed, or get a new ISP.
This is a silly answer. Every ISP can have problems one time or another! Complaining or getting a new ISP won't solve the problem if one has an urgent mail to send. And sometimes that's simply not possible to choose (e.g. at work). > In many places, on many providers' networks, there is no other > option for them anyway, because outgoing mail that isn't to their > ISP's gateway will be blocked. An ISP is there to provide full, unfiltered Internet access. If the user has chosen as ISP that blocks some ports, that's his problem. My machines at home and at work are configured to send mail directly, without using the mail gateway of my ISP (home) or of the lab (work), and everything is fine. -- Vincent Lefèvre <[email protected]> - Web: <http://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <http://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
