* Aaron Poffenberger <a...@hypernote.com> [11-22-21 14:30]: > On 2021-11-22 10:38 -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy <ke...@8t8.us> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 12:06:29PM -0600, Aaron Poffenberger wrote: > > > On 2021-11-22 09:50 -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy <ke...@8t8.us> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:22:33AM -0600, Aaron Poffenberger wrote: > > > > > I know this is related to Message-ID because if I go into muttrc(5) > > > > > and put `set hostname="example.com"` and send again to > > > > > u...@sbcglobal.net, the message goes through without issue. > > > > > > > > Well, setting $hostname can affect other things too. > > > > > > > > Without the patch, if you *just* change your $message_id_format to > > > > "<%z...@example.com>" you are saying it goes through. Are you using > > > > $smtp_url > > > > or a local MTA? Are there any other possible variables? > > > > > > I use msmtp: > > > > > > set sendmail=/usr/local/bin/msmtp > > > > > > In my case just setting hostname was enough to fix it. > > > > > > Setting message_id_format would probably work as well, but it would > > > also mean all emails sent through other email domains would have > > > Message-IDs from a different domain. In my case I send from 5 > > > different email domains. > > > > I understand, but I wasn't asking you to make a permanent change to your > > configuration; just to try setting the $message_id_format directly as I > > instructed without touching hostname (or anything else). > > > > As I and others in the thread have said, what you are describing makes no > > sense, so we'd like more cooperation verifying and helping to debug the > > behavior. > > > > > > The behavior you are describing is highly unusual, as the MTA is usually > > > > just looking at the EHLO and envelope addresses. > > > > > > > > > Also, as noted in my original, setting the fqdn of the Message-ID to > > > > > the fqdn of the From address make sense. When I'm sending email from > > > > > my laptop through gmail.com, the Message-ID picks-up the fqdn of my > > > > > laptop rather than using gmail.com. > > > > > > > > The purpose of the Message-ID is to be unique. Setting to the RHS to > > > > the > > > > local machine reduces the scope of randomness needed on the left side. > > > > There's no need or sense behind using the from domain. > > > > > > Mail.app uses <GUID>@<from fqdn>. The Google web interface uses > > > <hash>@mail.gmail.com. Notifications come from > > > <hash>@notifications.gmail.com. > > > > Sorry, I misspoke. I meant simply there is no *need* to use the from domain > > in the RHS. I don't believe Mutt's randomness for the LHS is sufficient to > > encompass a large domain by default, so would still be opposed to this. > > > > -- > > Kevin J. McCarthy > > GPG Fingerprint: 8975 A9B3 3AA3 7910 385C 5308 ADEF 7684 8031 6BDA > > I'm happy to try changing configuration using an unpatched version, > but I have to be careful sending too many test messages to > ATT/sbcglobal.net. They have an itchy RBL trigger. >
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