> you seem a tad optimistic about how people interact with lists.

Merely judging a tree by its fruits.  For everything I build with
source, the mail-driven projects are high-quality, low-breaking-changes,
build with few to no warnings, and are a pleasure to use.  The
forge-driven projects are the opposite of that.  We read "The Tortoise
and the Hare" to children because it is true.

JS

On 26-01-12 16:25, Oswald Buddenhagen via Mutt-dev wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 09:18:59AM -0500, Jason Stewart via Mutt-dev wrote:
> > Getting the
> > suggestions and complaints from others may reveal that one's original
> > plan was either mistaken or incomplete, and points the way toward a
> > better solution.
> >
> the same can happen in the issue itself.
>
> > The mailing list is an excellent filter.
> >
> that's what i said. only i didn't mean it in a good way. ;-)
>
> > With things like github,
> > people subscribe to a pet peeve, and ignore everything else.  That
> > selects for people who are fixated on one thing, but do not give a shit
> > about anything else--including other users.  Someone who stays
> > subscribed to the mailing list has to at least glance through all
> > discussions--even ones regarding features they don't care about. That
> > means a) they care enough to devote that much sustained attention to
> > mutt, and b) they have some context for on-going development (
> > strengths, weaknesses, bugs, history, goals, etc).
> >
> you seem a tad optimistic about how people interact with lists.
>
> also, people who feel committed to a project on github/... will put the
> entirety of it on watch, and thus have the same effect as being on the list.
>
> the difference is really what medium one prefers. the forges have the data
> naturally compartmentalized, which tends to be a _good_ thing.
> this degrades the mail inbox to a notification stream, while all the actual
> communication happens on the forge. that might be a tad counter-productive
> for a mail client project (that dog-fooding thingie), but other than that,
> the response is only indicative of the age of the audience here. :-P

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