I'm using mutt 1.3.27i from Debian "testing".  I've noticed that
occasionally, quoted text isn't highlighted in the pager.

I have quote_regexp set in my .muttrc:

    set quote_regexp="^[[:blank:]]*([[:alnum:]]{0,10}>|[]|:}#);+]|-> )"

This should match (among other things) any line with a leading ">".
The attached message has several such lines, but none of them appear
highlighted when I view the message.  Also, the toggle-quoted and
skip-quoted commands don't work on this message.  However if I
search ("/") for that regexp, the leading ">"s are found, as
expected.

The only other setting I have found that would affect this is
smiley.  I have not changed the default of this setting, and it
should not match the lines in the attached message.

Is there any other reason for the behavior I'm seeing?  In most
messages, quoted lines are highlighted as expected.

Thanks,
Andrew

[ Cc: appreciated. ]
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 > The company for whom I work wants to make a linux driver for some of its
 > hardware. On my side I would like the driver to be completely open 
sourced,
 > and from a customer point of view, its a big plus (a real PITA to 
maintain
 > closed sourced drivers). On the other hand, the company wants a clear 
way to
 > make "profit" from the work while still catering to it's customers 
whish to
 > recompile the driver for just about any kernel version.

 > Here is what they propose... I do not know if what they are proposing is
 > "going too far" regarding kernel module ethics, but I thought I'd ask 
the
 > question here and see what other people think.

 > The hardware needs a firmware to run. Since this firmware is under 
NDA, the
 > first compromise is to write the main part of the driver GPL but keep 
the
 > firmware of the card in binary format. The driver can then load the 
firmware
 > separately and this should not infringe on the GPL and I'm quite ok with
 > this requirement. Now the problem is that any of our competitor's 
cards will
 > work with the same closed sourced firmware and GPL engine. In pure
 > capitalist thinking, the company finds this particularly troublesome...

 > The other compromise is to write a closed source part that would not 
permit
 > the driver to work with another card supporting the same chipset. Is 
this
 > kind of practice generally accepted or is it frowned upon?

I think you'll find that a lot of people will frawn upon that practice, 
since most people are just interrested in getting support for as much 
hardware as possible, and usually considers it a good thing if one 
driver works with different hardware. But, it's your choise, and it 
would certainly be better than not releasing a driver at all if you ask 
me personally :)

 >The motive of the
 > company is quite clear. If people want to "improve" the driver, they can
 > only improve it for their hardware, not the competitors. There is 
also a big
 > marketing sales pitch that goes like "we support linux, the others
 > don’t..."

 > It's like if Nvidia did not have linux drivers and ASUS wanted to ship a
 > card with a linux driver that only works with asus cards even though 
there
 > is one from leadtek with the exact same chipset (assuming that ASUS 
cannot
 > change the internals of the card).

 > Is the second compromise just "going too far"? Is this better than 
simply
 > having a 100% closed source driver?

 From my personal poing of view, having a Linux driver available in any 
form is a lot better than not having a Linux driver at all. Ofcourse a 
100% opensource driver (including firmware) would be the best and is (I 
think) the only thing that will have a chance of being included in the 
mainline kernel

Having Open Source driver and closed firmware is ofcourse not as good, 
but still a lot better for the users, since they can recompile the 
driver for different kernels. This is what NVidia does as far as I know. 
But you should probably expect to handle all support issues and 
bug-reports yourself, since if the full source is not available you'll 
be the only one who /can/ fix problems.

A completely closed source driver is in my personal oppinion only a good 
idea if the only other option is no driver at all. The Linux kernel is a 
fast moving target, and you'd have to release a new version of your 
driver everytime something in the kernel that affects your driver 
changes.  Since the users cannot even recompile it to match a new 
kernel. Ofcourse it's better than no driver, but consider the other 
options again.

Just my personal opinion ;)


- Jesper Juhl - [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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