* Alexander Gattin <xr...@yandex.ru> [01-09-13 13:46]: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:54:57AM -0500, Patrick > Shanahan wrote: > > no, not so. And I can do the same from windoz. It is nothing to do > > with *nix but with *configuration* of your mailing system. > > nope, what you describe is UNIX/ARPA mail, nothing to do with Windoze --
windoz utilizes the mailing methods that we in place when m$ decided to join the rest of the world, but they commonly disregard standards in order to maintain control of the boxes/users they have. > but there are certain problems, like your account/auth info hosted on > gmail/yahoo/whatever instead of the defaul mail forwarder on your ISP. My mail is not *hosted* on gmail/yahoo. I do have accounts there but only use their services to receive mail, never to post unless using their web service as previously explained. > And gmail accepting your mail submitted via your ISP is big bloody hole, > and we both know that. What planet are we on. My mail is forwarded by my isp as routed in postfix with any "From:Addr" I choose, which accomplishes nothing more than supplying a "reply-to" address. The only place to see the *true* sending addr is the mail envelope. GMail receives my posts from what-ever list involved as any other post. It is *not* forwarding my mail, I have routed my isp via postfix to do that. > > But it is a major pain to do your own smtp from a non-dedicated > > domain. > > Almost everyone is using msmtp instead of sendmail/qmail/exim/postfix > these days. Far out. Most I know use postfix and a few qmail/exim. > > afa port 25, some isp's block port 25 service, but this is easily > > worked around. > > Wrong -- outgoing port 25 is blocked here (EV-DO) for everyone, but I > didn't check it for my other [DOCSIS] ISP. The only thing "Wrong" is your allegation. Port 25 is not blocked for me and I didn't say it was open for everyone, but it is for me. And port 25 is still commonly used for mail. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net
