On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 08:05:52PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 12.04.16 13:05, Derek Martin wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 05:28:08PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > The really big benefit of the Unix approach is that the same utility > > > know-how can be applied to every problem, as it is only the mix of > > > utilities used, and their parameters, which vary. > > > > The downside is that typical users don't want to learn all those > > tools, and by and large have no reason to. They use the web and > > e-mail, and very little else. > > Yes, what could be inferred from your first reply is now explicit. > May your typicality serve you well, and the rest of us tolerate what the > other has learned first and uses best.
Come on, Erik, this response would be kind of insulting, if it weren't pretty ridiculous. I am far from typical... but we're not discussing what's good for you, or for me--we're discussing what's good for an entire user community. Your response provides zero value on that score, and completely ignored a very real deficiency I described which your solution utterly fails to solve. Why bother even replying? If your software can save your user base gobs of configuration time and learning curve, and simplify your tasks with a uniform, consistent interface, how is that EVER a bad thing? Is that not actually the entire point of software? Frankly, I know a number of people who have moved on from Mutt cheifly because they were dissatisfied with its search capabilities. And these are system programmers and sysadmins--hardly the typical user. So clearly, just because it works for YOU, doesn't mean it should be sufficient for everyone. The Unix Philosophy is a wonderful generalized solution, but it's well understood that a specialized solution CAN be more efficient, and provide additional usability and other benefits as well. Here, for instance, a specialized solution could work consistently across all of the possible supported mail store options, SIMULTANEOUSLY; whereas yours only works for a subset, and rather clunkily. Are you honestly telling me that if Mutt had a powerful cross-message-store search function that was integrated seamlessly with its UI, that you would still use grep instead? Cuz that sounds pretty crazy. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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