On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 07:38:50AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 09:06:54AM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > On Mi, 19 Jun 2024, Will Yardley wrote:
> > 
> > > (I have started to see some Gmail environments also prevent the
> > > creation of app passwords).
> > 
> > If I recall correctly google is transitioning away from using app 
> > passwords later this year. A quick google turned up this doc: 
> > https://support.google.com/a/answer/14114704?hl=en
> 
> The article says:
> 
>  > You will no longer use a password for access (with the exception of
>  > app passwords).
> 
> I've seen this as well, but I think this specifically is saying that app
> passwords will continue to be an option?

All that said, while I know active development is pretty much on pause,
and while it's unclear to me whether XOAUTH2 itself is a standard, I
think it is (IMO) important that mutt somehow develop builtin native
support for OAuth without using the hack of a third party Python script.

Even so, users will likely still need to get the IDs needed to produce
an application (though I'm guessing some third parties might choose to
vendor / configure one in), some users will still run into issues
getting the necessary permission / IDs from corporate IT (or, in some
organizations, with having "legacy", i.e., Internet standard protocols
like IMAP disabled entirely), but providing first class support that
will work for most commodity users is something likely to be required by
the two largest email providers is, IMO, a good idea.

/w

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