At 02:27 PM 1/27/2010, Tom Metro wrote:
>That's, of course, just speculation, but Roger points out how with
>NFS you can adjust the block size, and it makes a difference.
As I'm not running NFS on the MythTV server, NFS is unlikely. The
service isn't running (confirmed with ps), so I don't think it's my
NFS block size settings...
Since it's the mythtv protocol that appears to cause the failure, I
would think that would be where to look for the failures, yes?
>Have you looked to see if the MTU is set the same on the MVP as on
>your server?
[r...@glutton tftpboot]# ifconfig eth0
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1D:60:A1:5E:66
inet addr:192.168.2.36 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:95484967 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:122023780 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:53059001517 (49.4 GiB) TX bytes:137051059618 (127.6 GiB)
Interrupt:169 Base address:0xe000
mvpmc:
BusyBox v1.1.3 (2009.12.31-08:00+0000) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0D:FE:00:8A:35
inet addr:192.168.2.57 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:68409350 errors:19 dropped:0 overruns:19 frame:0
TX packets:40693912 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:1263841686 (1.1 GiB) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:27 Base address:0xd300 DMA chan:1
>This also could be related to TCP window scaling, where CIFS may
>have enough acknowledgment points in its protocol to naturally
>throttle the connection, whereas a simpler protocol dependent on TCP
>windows would have problems if something is breaking the TCP window
>scaling, resulting in overruns.
>
>See:
>http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/
What simpler protocol that you reference? mythtv protocol?
The article refers to routers changing the scaling incorrectly. My
network isn't routed. I haven't changed anything like this on my
CentOS box. As pointed out previously - this is working for many
people - why would mine be different? Or a better question, what
would make mine different?
>Ways to work around the problem:
>http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Configuring_Network#The_TCP_window_scaling_issue
>(you can temporarily disable window scaling on your server)
"This issue is caused by broken routers/firewalls". It also
discusses if scaling is broken, it will look massively broken. My
entire LAN generally works just fine, as a combination of 6 OSs.
>Background on TCP flow control:
>http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6539/1/
I generally understand flow control. So what would make mine broken
on my local LAN? Misconfiguration of mvpmc somehow?
>Linux TCP tuning (you should be able to experiment with some of
>these settings on the MVP side):
>http://fasterdata.es.net/TCP-tuning/linux.html
net.core.rmem_max net.core.wmem_max aren't configured in
/etc/sysctl.conf. If I have to tinkering with the overall settings
on the MVP side, wouldn't that be a problem with mvpmc?
"You should also verify that the following are all set to the default
value of 1 ". They are (on the server, mvpmc should all be correct
by default, right?).
Values from sysctl -a for tcp.ipv4:
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.promote_secondaries = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.force_igmp_version = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.disable_policy = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.disable_xfrm = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.arp_accept = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.arp_ignore = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.arp_announce = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.arp_filter = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.tag = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.log_martians = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.bootp_relay = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.medium_id = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.proxy_arp = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.accept_source_route = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.send_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.rp_filter = 1
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.shared_media = 1
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.secure_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.mc_forwarding = 0
net.ipv4.conf.eth0.forwarding = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.promote_secondaries = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.force_igmp_version = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.disable_policy = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.disable_xfrm = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.arp_accept = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.arp_ignore = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.arp_announce = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.arp_filter = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.tag = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.log_martians = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.bootp_relay = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.medium_id = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.proxy_arp = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.accept_source_route = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.send_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.rp_filter = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.shared_media = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.secure_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.lo.mc_forwarding = 0
net.ipv4.conf.lo.forwarding = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.promote_secondaries = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.force_igmp_version = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.disable_policy = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.disable_xfrm = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.arp_accept = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.arp_ignore = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.arp_announce = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.arp_filter = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.tag = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.log_martians = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.bootp_relay = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.medium_id = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.proxy_arp = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.accept_source_route = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.send_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter = 1
net.ipv4.conf.default.shared_media = 1
net.ipv4.conf.default.secure_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.default.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.default.mc_forwarding = 0
net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.promote_secondaries = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.force_igmp_version = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.disable_policy = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.disable_xfrm = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.arp_accept = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.arp_ignore = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.arp_announce = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.arp_filter = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.tag = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.log_martians = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.bootp_relay = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.medium_id = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.proxy_arp = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_source_route = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.send_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.shared_media = 1
net.ipv4.conf.all.secure_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_redirects = 1
net.ipv4.conf.all.mc_forwarding = 0
net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding = 0
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.base_reachable_time_ms = 30000
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.retrans_time_ms = 1000
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.locktime = 99
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.proxy_delay = 79
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.anycast_delay = 99
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.proxy_qlen = 64
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.unres_qlen = 3
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.gc_stale_time = 60
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.delay_first_probe_time = 5
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.base_reachable_time = 30
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.retrans_time = 99
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.app_solicit = 0
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.ucast_solicit = 3
net.ipv4.neigh.eth0.mcast_solicit = 3
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.base_reachable_time_ms = 30000
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.retrans_time_ms = 1000
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.locktime = 99
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.proxy_delay = 79
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.anycast_delay = 99
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.proxy_qlen = 64
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.unres_qlen = 3
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.gc_stale_time = 60
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.delay_first_probe_time = 5
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.base_reachable_time = 30
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.retrans_time = 99
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.app_solicit = 0
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.ucast_solicit = 3
net.ipv4.neigh.lo.mcast_solicit = 3
net.ipv4.neigh.default.base_reachable_time_ms = 30000
net.ipv4.neigh.default.retrans_time_ms = 1000
net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_thresh3 = 1024
net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_thresh2 = 512
net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_thresh1 = 128
net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_interval = 30
net.ipv4.neigh.default.locktime = 99
net.ipv4.neigh.default.proxy_delay = 79
net.ipv4.neigh.default.anycast_delay = 99
net.ipv4.neigh.default.proxy_qlen = 64
net.ipv4.neigh.default.unres_qlen = 3
net.ipv4.neigh.default.gc_stale_time = 60
net.ipv4.neigh.default.delay_first_probe_time = 5
net.ipv4.neigh.default.base_reachable_time = 30
net.ipv4.neigh.default.retrans_time = 99
net.ipv4.neigh.default.app_solicit = 0
net.ipv4.neigh.default.ucast_solicit = 3
net.ipv4.neigh.default.mcast_solicit = 3
net.ipv4.udp_wmem_min = 4096
net.ipv4.udp_rmem_min = 4096
net.ipv4.udp_mem = 190272 253696 380544
net.ipv4.cipso_rbm_strictvalid = 1
net.ipv4.cipso_rbm_optfmt = 0
net.ipv4.cipso_cache_bucket_size = 10
net.ipv4.cipso_cache_enable = 1
net.ipv4.tcp_slow_start_after_idle = 1
net.ipv4.tcp_dma_copybreak = 4096
net.ipv4.tcp_workaround_signed_windows = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_base_mss = 512
net.ipv4.tcp_mtu_probing = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_abc = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_congestion_control = bic
net.ipv4.tcp_tso_win_divisor = 3
net.ipv4.tcp_moderate_rcvbuf = 1
net.ipv4.tcp_no_metrics_save = 0
net.ipv4.ipfrag_max_dist = 64
net.ipv4.ipfrag_secret_interval = 600
net.ipv4.tcp_low_latency = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_frto = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_tw_reuse = 0
net.ipv4.icmp_ratemask = 6168
net.ipv4.icmp_ratelimit = 1000
net.ipv4.tcp_adv_win_scale = 2
net.ipv4.tcp_app_win = 31
net.ipv4.tcp_rmem = 4096 87380 4194304
net.ipv4.tcp_wmem = 4096 16384 4194304
net.ipv4.tcp_mem = 196608 262144 393216
net.ipv4.tcp_dsack = 1
net.ipv4.tcp_ecn = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_reordering = 3
net.ipv4.tcp_fack = 1
net.ipv4.tcp_orphan_retries = 0
net.ipv4.inet_peer_gc_maxtime = 120
net.ipv4.inet_peer_gc_mintime = 10
net.ipv4.inet_peer_maxttl = 600
net.ipv4.inet_peer_minttl = 120
net.ipv4.inet_peer_threshold = 65664
net.ipv4.igmp_max_msf = 10
net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships = 20
net.ipv4.route.secret_interval = 600
net.ipv4.route.min_adv_mss = 256
net.ipv4.route.min_pmtu = 552
net.ipv4.route.mtu_expires = 600
net.ipv4.route.gc_elasticity = 8
net.ipv4.route.error_burst = 5000
net.ipv4.route.error_cost = 1000
net.ipv4.route.redirect_silence = 20480
net.ipv4.route.redirect_number = 9
net.ipv4.route.redirect_load = 20
net.ipv4.route.gc_interval = 60
net.ipv4.route.gc_timeout = 300
net.ipv4.route.gc_min_interval_ms = 500
net.ipv4.route.gc_min_interval = 0
net.ipv4.route.max_size = 1048576
net.ipv4.route.gc_thresh = 65536
net.ipv4.route.max_delay = 10
net.ipv4.route.min_delay = 2
net.ipv4.icmp_errors_use_inbound_ifaddr = 0
net.ipv4.icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses = 1
net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts = 1
net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_all = 0
net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range = 32768 61000
net.ipv4.tcp_max_syn_backlog = 1024
net.ipv4.tcp_rfc1337 = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_stdurg = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_abort_on_overflow = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_tw_recycle = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies = 1
net.ipv4.tcp_fin_timeout = 60
net.ipv4.tcp_retries2 = 15
net.ipv4.tcp_retries1 = 3
net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_intvl = 75
net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_probes = 9
net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_time = 7200
net.ipv4.ipfrag_time = 30
net.ipv4.ip_dynaddr = 0
net.ipv4.ipfrag_low_thresh = 196608
net.ipv4.ipfrag_high_thresh = 262144
net.ipv4.tcp_max_tw_buckets = 180000
net.ipv4.tcp_max_orphans = 65536
net.ipv4.tcp_synack_retries = 5
net.ipv4.tcp_syn_retries = 5
net.ipv4.ip_nonlocal_bind = 0
net.ipv4.ip_no_pmtu_disc = 0
net.ipv4.ip_default_ttl = 64
net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0
net.ipv4.tcp_retrans_collapse = 1
net.ipv4.tcp_sack = 1
net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 1
net.ipv4.tcp_timestamps = 1
net.core.netdev_budget = 300
net.core.somaxconn = 128
net.core.xfrm_larval_drop = 0
net.core.xfrm_acq_expires = 30
net.core.xfrm_aevent_rseqth = 2
net.core.xfrm_aevent_etime = 10
net.core.optmem_max = 20480
net.core.message_burst = 10
net.core.message_cost = 5
net.core.netdev_max_backlog = 1000
net.core.dev_weight = 64
net.core.rmem_default = 126976
net.core.wmem_default = 126976
net.core.rmem_max = 131071
net.core.wmem_max = 131071
>Roger Heflin <[email protected]> wrote:The mvpmc does have
>issues if the block size is too large, it loses packets because the
>network chip is rather cheap.
>
>On nfs setting the blocksize above 4096 caused issues, I believe
>there is a similar parameter for the myth protocol setup, but I have
>never set it to don't know where it is.
I've never set in mythtv either..... Just went through all the
mythtv GUIs looking for it in case I'd seen it and tweaked it for
some reason. No dice *sigh*.
>Roger Heflin <[email protected]> wrote:
>I believe the changes were on the mvpmc side.
Meaning that I've made changes on the mvpmc side? this issue is true
on both of my mvpmc systems, it's persistent across reboots, and most
importantly I haven't changed anything like block size.
>And it gets more critical the higher the bitrate is, and likely with
>the digital stuff the bitrate is probably higher than was being used
>with the hauppage cards, so is more of a problem, with the lower
>bitrates it can retransmit and still get that data there on time.
All of this is just data recorded from analog TV. (and all recorded
with a hauppage card , pvr-350 for that matter)
I'm not trying to be a pain. I've got a fix that actually works for
me, so I'm fine with just moving on. There's enough data in this
thread so that if someone else experiences the same thing, someone
can just change their config and have theirs work as well.
When all of this started (really a year ago) one concern from the
list was memory leaks. I still think all this points to that or some
other aspect of the mvpmc code (not my network, my dasd, my cpu, or
my mythtv setup), but if you don't think that, it's fine.
I'm enough of a tester that I wanted to point out where I thought the
issue was, and I'm willing to run debug tests if I can help someone
figure out why it's broken, in order to assist improving code
quality, or to assist someone else in getting their working. But mine
works fine now, so if you don't think it's worthwhile to help me
figure out what broke it previously, that's ok too.
Either way.
Rick
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