I had the same thought about Control-D. I think Alt-D was what was meant,
it goes to the due date field.

I really have to find time to play with auto formatting and icons more.
Sounds like a good refinement.

John, I know you already have your system but for others following the
thread...I prefer to use drag/drop ordering for importance/priority also,
but since my outline structure has other meaning, I do that drag/drop in a
manually sorted view. Since Android only syncs the order of Starred and
Active Starred (two independent sort orders), I use those. I have learned
that if I create a view based on one of these, for example, modified Active
Starred with action type set to all, I can rearrange the non-active tasks
and they will show up in that order -- with caveats -- in the other Active
Starred views as well.  (That way I can rearrange tomorrow's tasks).

Unfortunately there is some sync bug where my recurring tasks sometimes get
sent to the bottom of the list for the next day when I'm working from and
syncing from both platforms (happened long before the above view hack). So
John, this probably wouldn't work for you anyway, because it works as a
"today's working order" but not really as a static order. The only way I
make it work is that all of my recurring tasks have "()" in the title so I
can quickly grab them and put them back in place when this happens.

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:12 AM, John Smith <ship...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dwight -
>
> One problem I was having with the folders is that I was being over-whelmed
> with too much what was if fact rather low priority stuff clogging up my
> lists and I found that that high priority stuff was ending up being buried
> down in some folder somewhere.
>
> The other problem I was having was that I found - and continue to find -
> it way too pedantic and time consuming to allocate as well as Context, to
> also enter both Importance AND Urgency to ever single sub-task. And for
> this reason I have been experimenting with manually dragging the higher
> overall priority item further up the sort order in Outline view.
>
> At the time I also needed to "simplify and get on with my life" - but
> thanks for your suggestion. I can see that some form of folders could
> possibly help me, so I may revisit this issue later, but as things stand
> complex folders would be the kiss of death for me(!)
>
>
> Stéph
>
> - Interesting. Yes, your greying-out formatting rule sounds extremely
> clever.
>
> - When your remove the Due Dates is this done with an "advanced filtering
> rule" applied to whichever view(s) you are using.
>
> - Please can you explain what you mean by "Control-D, Delete". Control-D
> will duplicate the current item, but Delete then deletes the original one,
> so surely you are back to where you started, no?
> (Yes, I like using Control-D on it's own, particularly where the Context
> is the same, because obviously it saves us from re-entering the Context)
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 9:12:02 AM UTC, Stéph wrote:
>>
>> Hello John,
>>
>> I use the outline structure to group my tasks into the following
>> hierarchy:
>> Areas of Focus (personal, home, work, community),
>> Roles (husband, father, friends & family, project engineer, team leader,
>> SCADA specialist, etc),
>> Goals and Projects,
>> Sub-projects and tasks.
>>
>>
>> I use a Context to tag tasks as someday/maybe (see the flying pig icon in
>> the "icons and filters" thread I started and Andrey kindly pinned at the
>> top of the list). I've got a formatting rule set up to grey-out the text of
>> someday/maybe items so that they don't stand-out when I'm looking at my
>> outline. I also remove due dates. This way it's quick to make something
>> someday/maybe - just assign the context (with a hotkey, if you like). Also
>> type ctrl-D, Delete, if you have the time for two actions.
>>
>>
>> As far as the tickler list is concerned, that's definitely a case of
>> setting a start date.  The quickest way for me is Ctrl-S and then type and
>> take advantage of the excellent date parsing - "Next week Thursday", "in 2
>> months", etc.
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
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