Just wanted to chime in on this thread . I think this article title is
misleading as to what the article discusses ( in the opposite way from your
point, John , but both are true). I don't see having to clear all the tasks
in your head out as necessary for the mindful practices that have been
shown to help health and productivity, and I was expecting a different kind
of "do-nothing" than they describe, more along the lines of time resetting
the nervous system out of the constant stress, fight or flight mode that
task management tends to pull me into .

I am very intrigued by the concept the title itself implies. I do think
that such activities – relaxing in nature, meditation, exercise, morning
pages journaling, a discipline like the one I do, Tai Chi Chih – for me are
having a profound effect on my relationship with my task list and all of
the shoulds. An amazing amount of effort goes into anxiety in our
culture... staggering, really , I'm realizing for myself anyway. I haven't
yet learned to channel that anxiety into productivity, but I am learning to
turn it off and not have my health be impacted by it .

If anyone knows of books that combine mindful approaches with daily
productivity, I would be interested in hearing about them. ( if you feel
like it, copy your response to lstro...@gmail.com :).

The book that is completely changing my life right now, though it might not
be a good fit for many of you :-) Is, "The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying
up " . (People's can poo-poo it all they want, and they do, but it's going
across the world like wildfire, and for a reason :-)

It's this short, poorly organized and not particularly well-written,
translation of a Japanese book that is ostensibly about deciding what items
in your house you would like to keep because they are joyful/appreciated,
and seems like just another twist on other organizing methods, that instead
has hidden in it a gem of a process that has clarified what's been missing
for me for 25 years in how I deal with my belongings and is now changing
how I see my actions through the day and even my life perspective a
little.  (Sidenote:it doesn't seem like it makes a lot of sense, it appeals
more to women than men, and it doesn't work well IMO unless it's embraced
as is rather than being analyzed to death and tweaked, all probably making
it a poor fit for most of this list :-)

I haven't yet gotten to the point of applying this process to my task list,
but it's going to take a while and probably be quite amazing and freeing. I
have thousands of "aspirational" tasks collected over the years (just as
I've collected aspirational clutter – that stuff that reminds me of actions
I wanted to take but never got to and now have become guilt) that are
sitting in MLO and weighing me down. (many of them captured from my brain
using GTD but then never let go of because I was so running around trying
to do the tasks that I never did a review process consistently , but also
from time management books that encourage keeping of everything in your
system, but never say to let it go - "just move it to a someday list" :-) .
It will be interesting to see what kind of the task management solution I
end up with in MLO when I'm done. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a
book come out of it but it might be a few years . …

Lisa, who has pretty much abandoned you all due to health issues but
getting better slowly
On Jul 24, 2015 6:06 AM, "John Smith" <ship...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello
>
> What do you make of this interesting article?
>
> http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/productive-people-do-nothing/1107640/
>
> Apparently the key to productivity is not blasting through (endless) to-do
> lists flat out, nope - not even nicely prioritized ones. No, according to
> David Allen the trick is to create enough 'space' in your mind in order to
> think clearly. The way to do this can be either to deliberately put stuff
> off or to deliberately not do most of the stuff on your list at all.
>
> I think the title is slightly disingenuous - highly productive people
> don't JUST sit around "doing nothing", but nonetheless spending a
> significant amount of time doing nothing is extremely important nonetheless
> to one's overall productivity.
>
> Food for thought, no?
>
> John
>
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